What knd of training is required when on prohormones????

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Hi.

I have read two opinions on this matter....

What kind of training is required when on PHs?

Is it volume with light weights or is it slow and little reps with heavy weights?

Or.... something else?

[redz]

Depends alot on goals

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Depends alot on goals

My goal is to put on muscle and keeping strength whilst cutting on clen.

What trainin is needed?

[edgarr]

My goal is to put on muscle and keeping strength whilst cutting on clen.

What trainin is needed?

Hard to do. I would pick one or the other bulk or cut.

[redz]

I would pick one or the other bulk or cut.

Agreed bulk or cut.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Hard to do. I would pick one or the other bulk or cut.

I was advised to do this by goose.

He told me to use clen to loose weight and a PH to biuld muscle!

[Darksyde]

i would listen to maverick

[Okinawa_Power]

^^^^

LMFAO!!!!!! Brother bulk or cut...It is extremly hard to do both. Not many can do it.

[Teufel_Hunden]

I don't think there is a specific type of training to do. IMO I believe you should always lift heavy 6-8 reps. If you use too light of weight then its more like cardio IMO. If you wanna cut then I guess you could lift lighter with more reps, but a lot of guys say to lift heavy regardless and just step up the cardio. I've been able to drop some bodyfat and gain muscle at the same time. It isn't easy though, and you will never gain AS MUCH muscle doing it that way.

[edgarr]

I was advised to do this by goose.

He told me to use clen to loose weight and a PH to biuld muscle!

Did he mean bulk using a PH and then during your PCT use clen to help drop some of the fat or water gains?

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

I don't think there is a specific type of training to do. IMO I believe you should always lift heavy 6-8 reps. If you use too light of weight then its more like cardio IMO. If you wanna cut then I guess you could lift lighter with more reps, but a lot of guys say to lift heavy regardless and just step up the cardio. I've been able to drop some bodyfat and gain muscle at the same time. It isn't easy though, and you will never gain AS MUCH muscle doing it that way.

Thanks man....

He said use a PH to put some muscle on.

I agree with the heavy weights trainin with 6-8 reps.

Ill use cardio, stims and diet to cut!

[Teufel_Hunden]

IMO, if I were you I would eat as much protein as possible while keeping a some what clean diet while on the PH. Keep the same diet on PCT, but add in like 5 days of cardio. Low intensity, 45 min on an eliptical machine.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Did he mean bulk using a PH and then during your PCT use clen to help drop some of the fat or water gains?

Bro

I am not sure.

I think he meant use cardio n clen to cut, weights and PH to build some muscle....

He then said when u r down to 10% bf use a cycle of oral aas to add more muscle.

That is what i got from the convers9shn neway!

[Teufel_Hunden]

Add in some clen or the eca stack during your pct.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

^^^^

LMFAO!!!!!! Brother bulk or cut...It is extremly hard to do both. Not many can do it.

Ill do it!

It is a challenge and I love challenges!

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Add in some clen or the eca stack during your pct.

GR8 IDEA bro!

Im usin coffee n dark choc stack at the mo!

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

Agreed bulk or cut.

both its a challenge!

I luv challenges!

[Teufel_Hunden]

Bro

I am not sure.

I think he meant use cardio n clen to cut, weights and PH to build some muscle....

He then said when u r down to 10% bf use a cycle of oral aas to add more muscle.

That is what i got from the convers9shn neway!

If you are gonna use AAS, you might as well go all the way. 12 weeks of test with a 4 week oral kick start.

Once I get back from Afghanistan next year I'm gonna run a 12 week cycle of test and kick start it with some m-drol, I stocked up on a few bottles of that stuff.

[Teufel_Hunden]

I love the ECA stack simply because it wakes me up. As far as fat burner, I don't see the best results, but I love the energy throughout the day. I am sure if my diet was cleaner I would be losing a lot more weight.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

I love the ECA stack simply because it wakes me up. As far as fat burner, I don't see the best results, but I love the energy throughout the day. I am sure if my diet was cleaner I would be losing a lot more weight.

I luv coffee!

Esp dark with no sugar no milk!

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

If you are gonna use AAS, you might as well go all the way. 12 weeks of test with a 4 week oral kick start.

Once I get back from Afghanistan next year I'm gonna run a 12 week cycle of test and kick start it with some m-drol, I stocked up on a few bottles of that stuff.

Great idea but...

What bout the strain on the heart tho?

I like 1-T Tren n Madol for PHs!

M-drol is good.... Superdrol clone?

R u goin 2 use CEL m-drol?

R u militaty?

Is the armed forces struict when it comes to AAS?

[Teufel_Hunden]

Great idea but...

What bout the strain on the heart tho?

I like 1-T Tren n Madol for PHs!

M-drol is good.... Superdrol clone?

R u goin 2 use CEL m-drol?

R u militaty?

Is the armed forces struict when it comes to AAS?

I suppose it strains the heart, but I've never had any issues with it. I get health assessments constantly and I pass with flying colors. Every 2 weeks I take a few days off. Yes, M-Drol is a Superdrol clone. Yes I am using CEL, I love their products, just sucks they stopped making hormonal supplements. Yes I am in the United States Marine Corps. They are very strict on AAS use. If you are caught, you get kicked out of the military and face a court martial (if convicted, it can equal a felony conviction in the civilian world) However, they only test you for steroids if they catch you with contraband, and I live off base, and they can't come to your house. Guys that live in the barracks get busted all the time though. It is so expensive to test guys for steroids though.

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

I suppose it strains the heart, but I've never had any issues with it. I get health assessments constantly and I pass with flying colors. Every 2 weeks I take a few days off. Yes, M-Drol is a Superdrol clone. Yes I am using CEL, I love their products, just sucks they stopped making hormonal supplements. Yes I am in the United States Marine Corps. They are very strict on AAS use. If you are caught, you get kicked out of the military and face a court martial (if convicted, it can equal a felony conviction in the civilian world) However, they only test you for steroids if they catch you with contraband, and I live off base, and they can't come to your house. Guys that live in the barracks get busted all the time though. It is so expensive to test guys for steroids though.

Bruv.

I was thinkin of signin up to the UK T.A. and do basic miliyary trainin!

Im overweight but my bp.... is 110/69 n my cholesterol is 3.6!

Dishonourable discharge and can never serve in the forces again innit?

Some stupid teen who took oral AAS whilst he was the UK armed forces cadets died of an anafalactic shock (swollen brain and 'exploded' kidneys) to a contaminent in a bad batch of aas.

He was only 17 years old which IMHO is far 2 young for AAS use.

In teens AAS causes stunted growth and premature bone closure!

Some websites still sell CEL PHs tho!

What is ur PCT? What are ur ancillaries?

[Teufel_Hunden]

For PCT I use...

Clomid 100/100/50/50
DHEA 100mg ed
ZMA

[Teufel_Hunden]

I also use...

3g of Vitamin C ed
2 g of Milk Thistle ed
St. John's Wort
Creatine Mono
Vitamin E
Fish Oil

[GREAKWESSNIPES]

I also use...

3g of Vitamin C ed
2 g of Milk Thistle ed
St. John's Wort
Creatine Mono
Vitamin E
Fish Oil

Great PCT bruv!....

I am goin 2 use Sustan Alpha or anotha topical resvveratrol!

This thread has my PCT and ancillaries....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=420688

What do u think?

What rank r u in the Marine Corps?

Cardio: 1/2 shadow boxing everyday

But I am planning to volunteer at an animal home/sanctuary!