Help with fat loosing

[Wingman1]

Not sure if this is the right section.
age 39
height 5'11"
bf 25+%
on lowfat diet, been exersizing treadmil elliptical and weights,,, went from 242 tro 225 sinse January goal is to drop to 190 with solid muscle, as i am new to this looking for info on what i could take either from here or over the counter that will help with the fat burn and muscle building,, not into needles so pills or oral liquid,,,

Typical
day eating
breakfast 8am
oatmeal or multi grain cheerios with 2 tablespoons flaxseed
cofee no sugar

snack
apple or banana
or
plain yogurt

lunch
grilled chicke or fish
with spinach and bell peper mushroom salad

snack
fruit or vegetable
1 hard boiled egg white

dinner
small piece chicken, or fish or lean meat
with brown rice or small potatoe
veggies
dried cranberies or banana chips used for sweet tooth
lots of brewed green tea drank cold or water with lemmon thru the day
exercise consistes of 45 mins elliptical and 200 crunches + weights about 5 times a week

[6ft5]

Hi, You'd be ahead of the game if u posted ur macros and broke them down to each time u eat, and weight lifting execise, along w cardio intensity. ? Just crunches I can think of 7 or more diffrent ways to hit your abbs.

[Wingman1]

im new at this i'd be happy to post my micros if i knew them, or how to figure thm out,, as for intensity i burn between 400 and 700 cals or so the machine says,,

[6ft5]

im new at this i'd be happy to post my micros if i knew them, or how to figure thm out,, as for intensity i burn between 400 and 700 cals or so the machine says,,

Its cool man, everyone is here to learn. Altho I'm not a guru. The real smart guys are around here someware. I try and help cuz they will want this to help you. Use the search button type in (BMR it will give u an example. Then figure out ur TDEE it will give u an example.) That's a start.. don't loose it those are your numbers, read about it. This is what u would base a diet off of. Then look up macros, it is sumthing like pro/carb/fat ect. Its a start. Look up example diets try and construct one. 5 or 6 meals w a post workout shake. Ect.. Work on that then post it in the diet section. Then hopefully a guru will come along and help u tweek it. I can olny speak about my exp. Those dudes do it for a living. Best luck, keep up the good work!

[mg1228]

congraats on the weightloss--that being said---that diet is not too good and has taken u as far as its gonna---good news is: you dont need any otc drugs or fatburners--just a new diet

need to know ur tdee---use the info below to figure it---also need macros for each meal

make sure u watch the videos at the bottom---imo theyre a must for everyone wanting to learn how to eat



if you have not already done so, post up your stats

age
weight
height
bf
goals.. be specific

please take the time to follow these directions, they will better prepair the both of us for the critique and tweaking of your diet..

you need to figure our your BMR (this is the basal metabolic rate of your body... which means if you were to do nothing all day, ur body would burn these many calories)

once u'v figured out your BMR, u need your TDEE (this is your total daily energy expenditure, it's based upon your activity level)


But first things first, please post up your current diet.. you have to be brutally honest about what you've been eating on average for the last few weeks so i know where your metabolism is at..
please include macros

MACROS = pro/fat/cal/carb of every meal and a daily total on the bottom
you can use fitday . com to help you our with this... be as detailed and specific as possible

please include the time of when u eat and the time of your workout

example:

6am pro/carb/fat/cal
10 egg whites 50/0/0/200
1/2 cup oats- 3/50/2/218
53/50/2/418


REMEMBER

1g protien - 4cal
1g carb - 4cal
1g fat - 9cal
1g alcohol - 8cal (some would argue 7)



also tell me what your workout reg is...



BMR formula #1 (if you bf is high, use this one... you need an accurate bf reading)


BMR (men and women) = 370 + (21.6 X lean mass in kg)



in order to figure out your bmr, you need to know what your lean body mass is.. so, in turn, u need to know what your body fat percentage is...

if you dont know your bodyfat percentage, go to your gym and get tested (please dont use electronic scales to get your bf checked, they're horrible)

if you cannot find a gym to get tested at, please post up a picture for estimates, we're pretty good at it (you also have the option of pming it to me if you have more then 25 posts)

Total weight x bf in decimel form = total bf weight

Total weight - total bf weight = total lean body mass

if your total lean body mass is in lbs, u can divide it by 2.2 to get it in kilograms..

for example..

i am 6'4 275lbs at 14% bf... so i would multiply 275 by .14 (converted from percent to decimal)= 38.5lbs

275 - 38.5 = 236.5lbs lean body weight

236.5 / 2.2 = 107.5 lean mass in kg

370 + (21.6 x 107.5) = 2692 BMR (this is high for the average person, im a big guy)




BMR formula #2 (only to be used if your bf is low)

Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year )


female BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years )


TDEE

Once u have you bmr, u need to calculate your TDEE, this is simply done with some multiplication...

you can multiply it by an activity number to figure out your daily caloric expenditure, be honest here as this is the very cornerstone of your diet, if you are between two of the below activity levels then just multiply by a number in between them

To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:


If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

I should also give you an idea of what dieting should look like... you need to make sure every last calorie you take in isn't an empty calorie... every time you eat you should be eating with a purpose which is to fuel your body for growth and fat loss (predicated on your goals)...

Good meats/protien to eat..

Chicken Breast
Turkey Breast
Eggs/Egg Whites
Bison/Deer Meat
93% and up lean beef (ground beef, roast beef, london broil are just a few examples)
Fish (tuna, salmon, talipa etc..)
Whey (PWO ONLY)
Casien (BEDTIME ONLY)

Good Complex Carbs

Oats (not that instant crap, all natural steel cut/rolled oats)
Sweet potatos
Yams
Wheat Bread (no, not the enriched type)
Ezekiel Bread
Glutin Free Bread

Good Essential Fatty Acids

Almonds
Avocado (my fav)
Cashews
EVOO (extra virgin olive oil)
Fish Oil



You can google endless more where that came from.. get creative..

Also, try to seperate your pro/carb and pro/fat meals, usually leaving your pro/fat meals for bedtime... Beefs should be eaten closer to bed time and usually falls between the last and second to last meal

PROTIEN SHAKES (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CASIEN SHAKES) SHOULD BE CONSUMED POST WORKOUT ONLY!!!!!! DO NOT CHEAT YOURSELF BY REPLACING A MEAL WITH PROTIEN SHAKE, THEY DO 1/8 OF WHAT REAL FOOD WILL DO FOR YOU IN ITS PLACE...


Below are links to a great series of diet/nutritional vidoes that will give you a better idea as to what dieting is. Please remember that Milos only gives you a standard diet while we are trying to CUSTOMIZE one with you. This is why we need your BMR/TDEE and MACROS

Milos Sarcev "Secret of the Pro's" on Nutrition

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=323516


You can run a great many types of diets.. low carb, high carb, carb cycle, keto, etc.... there is no ONE right way.. the best thing you can do is pick one and stick to it while paying attention to how your body is reacting to it... some people are carb sensetive, some are not... you'll have to find out yourself

MICROCALIBRATION - Microcalibration is a must for dieting.. usually based upon your goals you will be set either 500 calories above or below your TDEE. This is a starting point and you need to be checking yourself by weight or measurment every week to scale how your body reacts..

try to remember that dieting is not an overnight thing.. it takes time and patience....

[mg1228]

Not sure if this is the right section.
age 39
height 5'11"
bf 25+%
on lowfat diet, been exersizing treadmil elliptical and weights,,, went from 242 tro 225 sinse January goal is to drop to 190 with solid muscle, as i am new to this looking for info on what i could take either from here or over the counter that will help with the fat burn and muscle building,, not into needles so pills or oral liquid,,,

Typical
day eating
breakfast 8am
oatmeal or multi grain cheerios with 2 tablespoons flaxseeddo the oatmeal--no more cheerios---also need protein here
cofee no sugar

snack
apple or bananacut out all fruit--too much sugar for cutting--need lean protein and complex carb
or
plain yogurtnot a choice anymore

lunch
grilled chicke or fish
with spinach and bell peper mushroom salad

snack
fruit or vegetable
1 hard boiled egg white

dinner
small piece chicken, or fish or lean meat
with brown rice or small potatoe
veggies
dried cranberies or banana chips used for sweet tooth
lots of brewed green tea drank cold or water with lemmon thru the day
exercise consistes of 45 mins elliptical and 200 crunches + weights about 5 times a week

i know ur still reading above post---atleast i hope so---but here is a start

take the time it takes to do those 200 crunches and add it to the ellipitical---do any resistance training?

[evil30]

mg1228 is usually spot on when it comes to diet. Diet is NOT the only thing but it is the MOST impotant thing. You are what you eat.

[Wingman1]

ok i think i got all the info u need,,,
i posted it on a new thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...43#post5097943