Originally Posted by
eliteforce
...but isn't it strange that prior to the 9/11 attacks, police in the Philippines had stumbled upon and arrested a group of muslim militants that were planning just that type of attack..
Provide a link to that story please. And further explaination of why it was a warning sign. Also, if there was another attack being planned crashing jet liners, what you're saying is they stopped it...so why would you assume there is another plot?
Also one of the jumbo-jet flight schools that was teaching the actual 9/11 kamakazie pilots warned the feds that he thought these guys were suspicious-because they wanted to learn how to take-off and fly but told them they "didn't need to know how to land the plane"
August 13-15, 2001: Zacarias Moussaoui trains at the Pan Am International Flight School in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where he pays $8,300 ($1500 by credit card and the remainder in cash) to use a Boeing 474 Model 400 aircraft simulator. After just one day of training most of the staff is suspicious that he's a terrorist. They discuss "how much fuel [is] on board a 747-400 and how much damage that could cause if it hit[s] anything." They call the FBI with their concerns later that day. [New York Times, 2/8/02, Senate Intelligence Committee, 10/17/02] They are suspicious because:
1) In contrast to all the other students at this high-level flight school, he has no aviation background, little previous training and no pilot's license. [Senate Intelligence Committee, 10/17/02]
2) He wants to fly a 747 not because he plans to be a pilot, but as an "ego boosting thing." [New York Times, 10/18/02] Yet within hours of his arrival, it is clear he "was not some affluent joy-rider." [New York Times, 2/8/02]
3) He is "extremely" interested in the operation of the plane's doors and control panel. [Senate Intelligence Committee, 10/17/02] He also is very keen on learning the protocol for communicating with the flight tower despite having no plans to actually become a pilot. [New York Times, 2/8/02]
4) He is evasive and belligerent when asked about his background. When an instructor, who notes from his records that Moussaoui is from France, attempts to greet him in French, Moussaoui appears not to understand, saying that he had spent very little time in France and that he is from the Middle East. The instructor considers it odd that Moussaoui did not specify the Middle Eastern country. [Minneapolis St. Paul Star Tribune, 12/21/01; Washington Post, 1/2/02]
5) He tells a flight instructor he is not a Muslim, but the instructor senses he is lying, badly, about it. [New Yorker, 9/30/02]
6) He says he would "love" to fly a simulated flight from London to New York, raising fears he has plans to hijack such a flight. [Senate Intelligence Committee, 10/17/02] His original e-mail to the flight school similarly stated he wanted to be good enough to fly from London to New York. [New York Times, 2/8/02]
7) He pays for thousands of dollars in expenses from a large wad of cash. [New York Times, 2/8/02]
8) He seemed to be trying to pack a large amount of training in a short period of time for no apparent reason. [New York Times, 2/8/02]
9) He mostly practices flying in the air, not taking off or landing (although note that reports claiming he didn't want to take off or land at all appear to be an exaggeration). [New York Times, 2/8/02, Slate, 5/21/02, Minneapolis St. Paul Star Tribune, 12/21/01, New York Times, 5/22/02]
Failing to get much initial interest from the FBI, the flight instructor tells the FBI agents, "Do you realize how serious this is? This man wants training on a 747. A 747 fully loaded with fuel could be used as a weapon!" [New York Times, 2/8/02]
As you can see he never asked to just take-off and fly, it was an observation, and they threw his ass in jail.
So why did the federal aviation authorities simply issue a heads up to all the pilots:
If there are violent people in the plane, lock the cockpit doors and land as soon as possible, as it is becoming obvious that todays hijackers probably won't demand to land the plane in cuba or beirut like they did in the 70's, they will just crash the plane, so assume that and just get the plane down asap.
Maybe because nobody anywhere in the world had used a plane as a weapon yet. The policy of opening the door is to save the lives of those on board. Keeps the hijackers from killing people at random or blowing up the airplane.
With all this information the feds did nothing, there was no change in the in flight rules and procedures that would have at least kept the kamikazie pilots out of the cockpit, in all 4 hijaakings the pilots opened the doors voluntarily- which was the procedure prior to 9/11/01 and despite the repeated warnings was not changed until 9/12..
Dumbass, you do realize cockpit doors were required prior to 9/11 to be weak enough to be kicked open in the event of emergency. Locking it wouldn't do much good.
All of this sounds very suspicious, since when are American federal authorities that incompetent, they can bust the most sophesticated crime syndicates in the world but not this, and all this happening at a time of increased tensions in the middle-east when there should have been extra vigilance.
There would have never been enough public support for 'vietnam' type wars of occupation in iraq and afghanistan had the hijaakers simply forced the planes down and had a hostage situation, or if they only managed to crash one or two of them in an empty rural area, only a massive pearl harbor type disaster would create the necessary public support, this hijaaking conspiracy needed to go perfectly-and it did.
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