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Thread: cycle number 2 after 3 clean years

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    cycle number 2 after 3 clean years

    hi guys,

    i am now 23, 24 in 4 months and i feel its time for my 2nd cycle. My first cycle was 500mg of sus 250 per week for 12 weeks. At the time i thought i did ok, looking back it was a whole lot of water retention, high blood pressure and poor carb sources !

    after learning how not to overtrain, eat and rest i think its time to go at it again. I want some lean mass but also want to keep the water retention low, this is what i had in mind:

    weeks 1-10 100mg test p EOD
    weeks 6-10 100mg masteron EOD

    arimidex on hand if needed, was going to do 0.2mg eod to help with water.

    PC will be standard:

    week 1 clomid 100mg ED / tamoxifen 40mg ED / arimidex 0.2mg ED
    week 2 half all of above
    week 3 same as week 2

    what do you guys think ? is 100mg of test not enough ? should u bump it to 150mg EOD ?

    current stats:

    6 foot 1
    17 stones dead
    hovering somewhere between 15 and 18% BF.

    train 4 times a week using the HIT method detailed by mike mentzer, split body parts back and bi, chest and tri, legs, shoulders and traps.

    280 g of protein per day and shoot for 3000 cal overall.

    example of days eating -

    7:30 3 scoops of weight gainer and 75gs of oats

    10:30 3 eggs and 2 pieces of fruit

    1:30 baked potato, veg and a chicken breast

    3:30 tin of tuna and a wholemeal bagel

    5:30 30gs of whey then train

    7:00 steak/chicken with wholemeal pasta or brown rice with veg

    10 bed - 200gs of cottage cheese and 30g of casein protein.

    all advice is welcome

    adam

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    The prop seems good. 400mg/week of each I'm assuming?

    I'm not so sure about the masteron. It works better with people whom already have a low bf percentage and it will retain mass while dieting. It will give you a nice hard look though.

    My personal opinion on a second cycle would be test C & EQ together. Frontload the EQ 600mg/week for 4 weeks and run nolva @ 10mg ED to keep down water retention and other sides.

    If you're on a bulking cycle, no sense in worrying about bloat. It's almost inevitable.

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    its based on whats available to me as well which im sure you can understand im not to worried about bloat, if i gain sizee but keep my current body fat i will be pretty happy.

    heard the mastreron will increase the potency of the test and keep water down. anyone had any fisrt hand use of the test and masteron cycle.

    i try and be quite a carefull user, is the 150mg test EOD too much, will it give any better results than the 100mg ED compared to sides ?

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    Prop has a very short ester so it will yield more actual test per mg as compared to longer estered testosterones such as c & e. Sticking with 100mg EOD will bring good results.

    If it's all you can get your hands on, I'd say do it. It's a good stack.

    What is your PCT?

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    week 1 clomid 100mg ED / tamoxifen 40mg ED / arimidex 0.2mg ED
    week 2 half all of above
    week 3 same as week 2

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    bump

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    do i presume that its ok to go then as no one has an opinion on it ?

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    hodoes the pct look ? thinking of starting it 2 days after last injection as they are both short esters, is this ok ?

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