Question about Sus

[Pr3ss]

Hey all, I am from Australia, Melbourne and have never tried any sort of gear before, now all I can find here is sustanon, so my question is, will it be enough to put on a bit of size with a proper diet and training program? If so, how much should I use?

[grapejuice11]

ive never used sus but 2 shots a week at 1ml every 3 days. sus is going to hurt though cause of the prop, if i were you i would use test e or test c 500mg a week. 5 day split for a workout to

[Pr3ss]

I hear Sus is one of the better ones for a absolute starter so I was wondering, and I dont think I can find test e, in melbourne :/ if there is a online store you know of that sells good stuff,let me know

[marcus300]

What are your stats?
How long have you been training for?

[arejay]

funny how everyone attributes sust pain to the prop. but such a small dose. i'm at 50mg ed and have no pain whatsoever.
WHY BLAME PROP???

[lexruger]

its easier to blame the product for the pain than to admit there pinning technique sucks

[Pr3ss]

What are your stats?
How long have you been training for?

Been training for 3 years now, I am 154 lbs and about 5.6 ft tall, as for body fat I have no idea because I have never measured it.

[Aussiebb]

Sus should be fine.

Maybe inject 250mg on monday and 250mg on thur.You should see gains with a 10 week cycle

[Pr3ss]

Thanks guys, I have a few more questions tho,
1.Is it ok if I still did Cardio to reduce body fat?
2.What needle should I be using?
3.Should it be stored in the fridge?
4.How many reps in a set should I be doing to get maximun muscle gains?
5.Does it help to gain strength?

Sorry about all these questions, as I said Im new to this :/

[sanchez]

Thanks guys, I have a few more questions tho,
1.Is it ok if I still did Cardio to reduce body fat?

I personally wouldnt because it will limit your growth potential if you burn more calories via cardio. Try cutting after your pct is over.
2.What needle should I be using?

23g/1.25-1.5
3.Should it be stored in the fridge?

I dont. just store it in a cool dry place. Putting it in the fridge will make it thicker and harder to draw/inject
4.How many reps in a set should I be doing to get maximun muscle gains?
6-8
5.Does it help to gain strength?
yes.

Sorry about all these questions, as I said Im new to this :/

My opinion in bold

[Pr3ss]

Thankyou Sanchez for the quick reply

[don-S]

I never keep my sust in the fridge... actually I think gets thicker that way it does at least in the freezer. I myself would not do too much cardio when bulking up. I would not go over 1- 10 reps for the big exercises ( bench,squat,Deadl.)... But in the future I would bulk up with some d-bol. I think the sust alone is ok for a first cycle.
you should have some Post cycle therapy in the cycle. And eat very well... if the diet is off you will mess up the cycle.

Whats your age?

[don-S]

And also find someone that has juiced before to show you the proper process, hygene etc... because you Do NOT want to get an infection it will cause fever and you will have to stop the gear while the antibiotics do their thing. Steroids boozt up all infections.

and in doubt... read, read, read, and ask ,ask, ask.

[Pr3ss]

My age is 29 don-s , and I am getting 10ml of sust next week, do I need to do anything before I go on the cycle? Should the cycle go for 8 weeks?

[Pr3ss]

One more thing, When on sust, how often can I train a certain muscle group?

[sigman roid]

What have you got planned for pct?

If your gonna run a cycle you need more sus than 10ml,unless your planning on doing 1ml a week which is a waste of time imo.

[sanchez]

My age is 29 don-s , and I am getting 10ml of sust next week, do I need to do anything before I go on the cycle? Should the cycle go for 8 weeks?

One more thing, When on sust, how often can I train a certain muscle group?

mate you need to READ the stickys on this site. You are asking simple questions which have been answered a million times.

You cant base a decent cycle on 10ml of sust. Theres no point. It will just be a waste of time and money.

Have you heard of PCT? If so, what do you have lined up?

Dont go any further until you have answered these questions.

[dec11]

its easier to blame the product for the pain than to admit there pinning technique sucks

no true, sust is almost always felt

[dec11]

One more thing, When on sust, how often can I train a certain muscle group?

the sust has nothing to do with it, its not magic, train every group once per week as usual, the same training rules and foundations apply, AAS are only a supplement

[irongamer]

If i was you i would get 2 vials of sus and run 500mg per week and nothing else. If you eat right you will blow up...15-20lbs easy on 4-5k calories (now the eating is the hard part!!!!!) Don't worry about any other AAS but make sure you get Nolva and clomid for PCT. I would run Nolva at 20mg for 4 weeks and the clomid at 50mg for 4 weeks and you should have your natural test levels back on line.

I think you need to read a lot more before your first pin as the answers you are looking for are everywhere. but if you are gonna run it anyway then please have your PCT on hand so you don't run into problems. An AI like aromasin is a great idea just in case you are sensitive. I have to run 12.5 mg ED during cycle on 500mg of Sus to keep estrogen in check but that is me and you and many others could be very different. I've seen guys that have no gyno problems at a gram a week for 16 weeks so go figure. I wish you luck and I wish you would spen the next few weeks learning more before you start so you have command of the info on the products you are running. I think it helps tremendously. you can learn all you need to know here or many other places on the web. Great luck to you.

gamer

PS: I feel Sus too and i always get 1-2 days of the test flu with it....BUT...I love it and all test preperations!

[LeroyB]

Please read the threads labeled IMPORTANT in the root of this forum.

[roidboyjnr]

mate you sound a bit lost throw me a pm and ill sort some info for you.
cardio you can still do just walking 40 mins wont hurt you, make sure you have a clean diet 3500 - 4000 cals should be fine, run a 19nor with your sus so deca or EQ would be good. its only your first cycle so dont go to hard on it maybe just a ml of each a week and see how you go, try and get good sleep 9 hrs would be great . any how pm me if ya like ....

[Kibble]

What have you got planned for pct?

If your gonna run a cycle you need more sus than 10ml,unless your planning on doing 1ml a week which is a waste of time imo.

Perfect reply. And yes, what is the pct plan?

[c-Z]

P.S. What are your stats. 10ml of sust... You won't see much

[roidboyjnr]

also make sure its no a 10ml vial with a blue stuck on lable, there is alot of those fakes going around in aus at the mo.
my last cycle i ran cellucor P6 as pct, got the almonds back to walnuts in a week

[Pr3ss]

I am getting 10 first just to make shure its not fake, after that if the stuff is good I will get another 10ml, im planning on taking 2 shots weekly, 1ml for every shot, and as for pct I am looking at cellucor P6 as roidboyjnr mentioned in the above post, when I google it it throws up this

http://www.mrsupplement.com.au/austr...llucor-p6.html

is that the product you are talking about roidboyjnr? and c-Z as far as stats go I am 29 years of age, been training for 3 years now, I weigh 154 lbs, height 5 foot 6 inches, I have no idea about Body fat coz I have really never measured it.
And @roidboyjnr, I do not seem to have Pm permissions, are we allowed to give out msn addresses? Thankyou all for the help.

[sixxer]

I'm from Aus too, Sydney though.

If possible, get your PCT in your hand before booting your first dose. Clomid and Nolva is enough, know any pregnant chicks?

With Sus, you're best booting at least 3 times a week, like Mon-Wed-Fri. A better approach is every 2nd day right through your cycle. So it works out to be 7 times a fortnight.

If money isn't an issue, I would recommend doing 1-1.5ml (250-375mg Test) for each shot for your first two weeks. So if you're doing Mon-Wed-Fri you would be booting 750-1125mg of Test for the first 2 weeks. Then you can lower this to 0.5-0.75ml each shot, 375-562.5mg Test weekly. And run it for up to 14 weeks.

[Pr3ss]

If money isn't an issue, I would recommend doing 1-1.5ml (250-375mg Test) for each shot for your first two weeks. So if you're doing Mon-Wed-Fri you would be booting 750-1125mg of Test for the first 2 weeks. Then you can lower this to 0.5-0.75ml each shot, 375-562.5mg Test weekly. And run it for up to 14 weeks.
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Ok say I do that, how long after my cycle do I start Clomid and Nolva, and how much? Whats the worst that can happen if I do not take any PCT at all?

[stevey_6t9]

this thread is the blind leading the blind.

do your research your asking how to use sust?

your stats are not good enough to consider using aas

[syd-bloke]

this thread is the blind leading the blind.

do your research your asking how to use sust?

your stats are not good enough to consider using aas

lol agreed, i guess that is why marcus didnt respond!

[sixxer]

Guys, I know old mate shouldn't be cycling AT ALL yet.

However, if he is going to regardless of our opinions would it not be best to at least give the most appropriate advice possible?

At least should he go ahead and do AAS anyway, he would have the necessary information available to him.

Or fcuk it, who cares if he fcuks himself up?!

[stevey_6t9]

Guys, I know old mate shouldn't be cycling AT ALL yet.

However, if he is going to regardless of our opinions would it not be best to at least give the most appropriate advice possible?

At least should he go ahead and do AAS anyway, he would have the necessary information available to him.

Or fcuk it, who cares if he fcuks himself up?!

I guess people some dont listen and do it anyway but i dont give a two fuks. its their body.

[dec11]

Guys, I know old mate shouldn't be cycling AT ALL yet.

However, if he is going to regardless of our opinions would it not be best to at least give the most appropriate advice possible?

At least should he go ahead and do AAS anyway, he would have the necessary information available to him.

Or fcuk it, who cares if he fcuks himself up?!

no one with any credibility will advise him if he isnt ready mate

[dock holliday]

i am now on a 13 week sustanon schedule. ive decided to do 500mg every 4 days for 13 weeks. yes to take advantage of the propionate it would be advantageous to shoot e.o.d., but because it has 60mg of phenylpropionate (which kicks in on days 4-5), i conclude it is just as good concerning levels of testosterone.

[Tyler694]

no one with any credibility will advise him if he isnt ready mate

Think about it like this though.. If he is determined to do AAS, he will do it either way.

If he is advised with poor information, that will be unfortunate. :s

[dec11]

Think about it like this though.. If he is determined to do AAS, he will do it either way.

If he is advised with poor information, that will be unfortunate. :s

thts not the way it works here, HOF's and mod's dont agree with advising ppl tht arent ready, theres a case on the threads at the moment of a kid doing a dbol only cycle, classic case of not listening and nows hes screwd himself up and running back for help