I'm all ears for opions on first short cycle

[Trevo30039]

Background, I have been lifting solid for the last 2 and half years and feel like I have reached a peak. when I started lifting I was 140lbs. I am now 24 years old 5 foot 11 inches weighing in at 160 to 170lbs. I have been researching beginners cycles for about 5 months. And I have decided that I would like to do a short 4 week cycle for my first. Here is what i have put together. Please all opinions welcome.

TREN/D-BOL.... Tren 50mg/day for 4 weeks and d-bol 30mg/day in 4 divided doses per day(one right before bed) for 4 weeks.
Two days after last Tren, Clomid at 200-300mg on day one in divided doses and then 50-100mg/day for a week and then 50mg a day for 3 more weeks. OR...Nolva at 80mg on day one in divided doses followed by 40mg/day for a week and then 20mg/day for 3 more weeks

[Trevo30039]

Nothing?

[Darksyde]

just where did you do this 'research'? i think you should start over.

[G4R]

What are your goals?
What does your diet consist of?

[dece870717]

Background, I have been lifting solid for the last 2 and half years and feel like I have reached a peak. when I started lifting I was 140lbs. I am now 24 years old 5 foot 11 inches weighing in at 160 to 170lbs. I have been researching beginners cycles for about 5 months. And I have decided that I would like to do a short 4 week cycle for my first. Here is what i have put together. Please all opinions welcome.

TREN/D-BOL.... Tren 50mg/day for 4 weeks and d-bol 30mg/day in 4 divided doses per day(one right before bed) for 4 weeks.
Two days after last Tren, Clomid at 200-300mg on day one in divided doses and then 50-100mg/day for a week and then 50mg a day for 3 more weeks. OR...Nolva at 80mg on day one in divided doses followed by 40mg/day for a week and then 20mg/day for 3 more weeks

First off short burst cycles are NOT for beginner cycles. And tren, tren for a first cycle? Something that is usually harsh on even very experienced cyclers and you want to do that first? Its SO unnecessary especially if your body is new to steroids. From just 500mg/week of Test you would get amazing gains. If you took tren and dbol I'd guarantee you'd hurt yourself because the strength gains would be too much for your joints to handle or you'd pull something.

If you are dead set on doing steroids anyway then at least do them sanely. Test Enanthate 500mg/week for 10 weeks and that's it.

[shafts basson]

my first 2 cycles i only did test and i blew up it was great. no use trying to shoot for the stars right now with tren. u may be really happy with your test results it depends on the person