This guy is claiming to be 100% natural

**LiftedDuramax2007** · 03-15-2010, 09:46 PM

Im not an expert but this guy is saying he doesnt touch that s**t

Check it out and tell me what you think
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/ToryRoberts/
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post463451053

**alexISthrowed** · 03-15-2010, 09:55 PM

"not natty.
thus only half a clap"

LOL

**jbm** · 03-15-2010, 09:57 PM

liar!

**Hard.On** · 03-15-2010, 10:12 PM

what a joke,
Thats why I hate that website,
At least those here are honest

**JBarron** · 03-15-2010, 10:15 PM

Idk guys, I have a friend who is a bit larger then him, he's 21 years old and he's put up 415 flat. He's trained with his older brother since he was about 14. And I know for a fact he's never cycled.

I'm not saying this kid above isn't lying. But it is very possible for someone to achieve those results at that age without steroids. Optimal diet, optimal routine, optimal age, optimal results.

EDIT: just saw his progress pics, lol prlly did cycle.

**lovbyts** · 03-15-2010, 10:20 PM

What, he does not look that good IMHO. He is not HUGE either so what's the problem. I have seen people a lot bigger and better who have never done a cycle. Guys they say it's 80% diet for a reason.

**Nicotine** · 03-15-2010, 11:29 PM

he's done cycles at least in the past

unless he thinks 3 months off inbetween cycles he's "natural" :P

**Gaspari1255** · 03-15-2010, 11:35 PM

With that much acne on his back, I have a hard time believing he's natural. Notice, he doesn't have acne anywhere else. On a side note, his chest is god awful. Everything else looks good though.

**collar** · 03-15-2010, 11:37 PM

to me he doesnt look to big, second he dont look good to me and third yes i believe his natural.

I have seen guys way bigger more defined and are natural.

**Gaspari1255** · 03-15-2010, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by collar

to me he doesnt look to big, second he dont look good to me and third yes i believe his natural.

I have seen guys way bigger more defined and are natural.

Go take a look at his 2.5 yr progess pics....natural my ass

**collar** · 03-15-2010, 11:52 PM

to each to their own

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**collar** · 03-15-2010, 11:54 PM

oh crap my bad, LOL....
I was looking at his 2 and half years ago pics, now i see what everyone talking about.

So much water retention, sooooooo much, balloon face, acne and plus he looks horrible.

gear it is.

my bad..

**Gaspari1255** · 03-15-2010, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by collar

oh crap my bad, LOL....
I was looking at his 2 and half years ago pics, now i see what everyone talking about.

So much water retention, sooooooo much, balloon face, acne and plus he looks horrible.

gear it is.

my bad..

I made the same mistake as well, assuming he was a genetic monster with a solid base. NOPE, lol. I was reading one of his threads, someone called him out about the water retention and his reply was "I drink a lot of water."

**collar** · 03-15-2010, 11:58 PM

LMAO.

obvouisly he has no clue, what happens when you actually drink water.

what a dumb ass, plus that bubble head cant pass for natural no matter what he says.

**Quo** · 03-16-2010, 12:39 AM

What I've learned over the years is - If you think a dude is juicing

HE IS

Kid is juicing. And then if you read what his diet is

"6 eggs in the morning and 2 cups of oatmeal
Lunch is dry pasta, dry salad, chicken
pre workout 60 gram protein shake
post workout 60 gram shake
dinner is usually 4 eggs or a lot of chicken
At night I do another cup of oatmeal with some peanutbutter in it. "

Total crap. No way he's getting that big natty with a diet like that.

Edit: LOL I just noticed that's his BULKING diet, too. Hahaha that's less than what I am currently eating to cut. And I've been natty for the past 2 years.

**quarry206** · 03-16-2010, 01:45 AM

I think some of the photos are photoshopped on top of him doing juice.

**Older lifter** · 03-16-2010, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Quo

What I've learned over the years is - If you think a dude is juicing

HE IS

Kid is juicing. And then if you read what his diet is

"6 eggs in the morning and 2 cups of oatmeal
Lunch is dry pasta, dry salad, chicken
pre workout 60 gram protein shake
post workout 60 gram shake
dinner is usually 4 eggs or a lot of chicken
At night I do another cup of oatmeal with some peanutbutter in it. "

Total crap. No way he's getting that big natty with a diet like that.

Edit: LOL I just noticed that's his BULKING diet, too. Hahaha that's less than what I am currently eating to cut. And I've been natty for the past 2 years.

I looked at the diet too, not a lot although there are no portion sizes, still not much and not that well balanced, dinner 4 eggs OR chicken??????

**Mr.Rose** · 03-16-2010, 02:45 AM

Did you guys skip the most important factor?

his body type. Is is obviously an ectomorph, look at his before picture in the forum post link. If he was at least a half mesomorph then i would believe him. But he isnt. I'm a mesomorph and i got to 240-50lbs naturally at the age of 19. So it is possible, but NOT in his situation. He was juicing. The veins are also a give away. What do we know that increases size of arteries and veins? and blood volume? I know steroids do.

**shafts basson** · 03-16-2010, 02:50 AM

wow just bolding lying there huh

hahaha

edit: @ mr. rose - no no no... not an ectomorph... hes a transformer

**jbm** · 03-16-2010, 03:50 AM

I'm natural....

**makod** · 03-16-2010, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by ******

With that much acne on his back, I have a hard time believing he's natural. Notice, he doesn't have acne anywhere else. On a side note, his chest is god awful. Everything else looks good though.

I have acne only on my back. Never got it on my face.

**DarnGoodLookin** · 03-16-2010, 04:35 AM

he probably is natural. He says he's never done roids or gh. he probably does ph's though. Im 10lbs less than that dude and an inch taller. But Im relatively close in size and I look better.

**fattywarbucks** · 03-16-2010, 04:56 AM

What's wrong with his diet? He eats plenty of dbol.

**marcus300** · 03-16-2010, 05:26 AM

I am also natural, never touch any kind of AAS in my life

**BJJ** · 03-16-2010, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

I am also natural, never touch any kind of AAS in my life

**F4iGuy** · 03-16-2010, 07:41 AM

LOL at his chest, legs, and BACNE!

***FireGuy*** · 03-16-2010, 07:54 AM

I dont think THAT guy is natural but I have seen dozens of guys I know are natural that carry way more muscle and are lean as well.

**Bossman** · 03-16-2010, 08:11 AM

Anybody able to read the tatoo on his back?

The guy has gyno, also.

**energizer bunny** · 03-16-2010, 08:11 AM

i dont know if he is or not, i dont like to make judgements....but there is one guy on here who looked 10 x better than this kid, youl know who i mean if youve been in his thread, hes just started his first cycle......and looked great natural, and i bet everyone thought he was on juice......

**Hard.On** · 03-16-2010, 10:29 AM

Guys that are big like that naturally are not 20

**Hazard** · 03-16-2010, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by energizer bunny

i dont know if he is or not, i dont like to make judgements....but there is one guy on here who looked 10 x better than this kid, youl know who i mean if youve been in his thread, hes just started his first cycle......and looked great natural, and i bet everyone thought he was on juice......

you're right man..... he's got some WICKED genetics.....

~Haz~

**BJJ** · 03-16-2010, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by FireGuy1

I dont think THAT guy is natural but I have seen dozens of guys I know are natural that carry way more muscle and are lean as well.

...x2

**JBarron** · 03-16-2010, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ******

With that much acne on his back, I have a hard time believing he's natural. Notice, he doesn't have acne anywhere else. On a side note, his chest is god awful. Everything else looks good though.

I've never cycled and I have worse acne on my back and shoulders then him, and I'm 22. My mom had bad acne so i get burdened with those genes.

**Nooomoto** · 03-16-2010, 11:48 AM

He has no neck. Gear all the way.

**laduem88** · 03-16-2010, 03:24 PM

i know that site is a joke and people believe when these guys say there natural

this guy claims to be natural to

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/BIGKONCRETE/

he does have the black thing going for him but still..cmon

**FranciscoG** · 03-16-2010, 03:31 PM

Does he state he has taken super whatever complex and all that other PH?

I am natural, I just take oral aas. That is 1000% natural.

**Hazard** · 03-16-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by laduem88;5109***

i know that site is a joke and people believe when these guys say there natural

this guy claims to be natural to

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/BIGKONCRETE/

he does have the black thing going for him but still..cmon

LOLOLOLOL

~Haz~

**LiftedDuramax2007** · 03-16-2010, 09:43 PM

I totally agree that there are guys out there that can reach that and better naturally. I was just referring to this clown

Why would they lie about it? Maybe someone knows them on the site? I dont know

The site is a cluster f*** but some funny reading for sure sometimes

**operationgetbig** · 03-16-2010, 10:53 PM

bodybuilding.com blows.

**Hard.On** · 03-16-2010, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by operation******

bodybuilding.com blows.

agreed

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