To be a monster ...

[MYOBRAIN]

To become a really big monster, is really necessary to do a full year cycle at least ? If so, what cycle will give the best results without f* your body ? I don't want to be a skinny anymore ...

My current stats is :

31 y old
220 pounds
+/- 10% bf
5'11
18 1/2 biceps

Nutrition and training is not a problem, i love training and eat like a pig ... I am talking serious fellows, i really need to grow. I expect opinions, please.

Sorry for the english guys ...

[RON]

220's not skinny bro. To be a monster takes time. If it didn't there would be 1000's of little Ronnie Colemans running around. 1 year of gear use will do nothing but make your liver fall out. I know there are a lot of bro's on extended cycles but those guys have been cycling for years.

[MYOBRAIN]

So, what can i do bro ? Maybe i have some psychological disturb hehe, but i don´t see me like a big guy. I need to reach 250 ... 20 inches, at least. But, i don't know the exact way to go there ... What can i do to reach that measures bro ? Thanks.

[Disposable_Hero]

have you cycled before? If so, what is your cycle history?

D_H

[skinnyhb]

ya, some history would help a lot. how long have you been training, and any cycles under your belt. the more information you give, the more you will get.

[MYOBRAIN]

have you cycled before? If so, what is your cycle history?

Originally posted by skinnyhb
ya, some history would help a lot. how long have you been training, and any cycles under your belt. the more information you give, the more you will get.

I'm training for 12 years now.
I did some cycles. Deca + hemogenin, Dianabol + Deca, Durateston + hemo ... (i did winstrol,and winstrol sucks-i think) and some more. But at that time, i was not wanting to be huge, i did only to gain some size. But now is different, i am selling suplements, training some people ... i think some addicional size will help me with my business, because at this sport, if you are big, people tend to hear and believe in you ...

I post this message asking for cycles, but any advise about nutrition, training is welcome. I really need some help guys.

[MYOBRAIN]

I forgott to mention, i made use of insulin (humalog)with last cycle - durateston/hemogenin. 10 UI after training ... i began using 15UI, but the hipo was high, then i came back to 10UI.

I know i have some size, but i need more...

[paulastone]

d-bol 40-50mg/ed for week 1-5
Test enathate/ or cypionate 600mg/week for week 1-12
Deca 400mg-600mg/week for week 1-10
nolva and clomid(you know the drill)
Oh, and I think you can add tren at the end if you want
Thats my 2cc big G

That should probly get you were you want(that 30lbs extra)
eat large and train like an animal
good luck if you decide on that one (but let me know bro!)

[MYOBRAIN]

Ok.what you think about adding some humalog in the mix ?

[paulastone]

I dont have a lot of experience with slin, but if you know how to use it then go ahead. hows your diet like?pm me bro

[Disposable_Hero]

Which of those drugs did you respond good to, and what doses were you running them at? What kind of gains did you get from your previous cycles.

D_H

[Lift Chief]

I wouldn't think you'd need slin this early into your cycling career- but i do think it can be used safely if you know what you are doing.

[sd11]

What were the doses on your previous cycles?

[MYOBRAIN]

sd11 []
What were the doses on your previous cycles?

Originally posted by paulastone
I dont have a lot of experience with slin, but if you know how to use it then go ahead. hows your diet like?pm me bro

I'm not thinking about quality, i'll try bulk to the max.

Breakfast (5:00):
some pasta
meat
some aminos
water (a lot)

Shake 1(8:00):
<a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a> powder + malto

Shake 2 (10:00):
<a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a> powder + malto

Lunch (12:00):
Rice
Potatoes
red meat, chicken, tuna - doesn't matter
coke

Shake 3 (15:00):
<a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a> powder + malto

Shake 4 (17:00):
<a href="http://www.allsportsnutrition.com/listproducts.php?style=category&value=PROTEIN" target="_blank">protein</a> powder + malto

Before training (19:00):
Bread
turkey
every type of junk
some aminos
coke

After training (22:00):
meat (large amount)
some veggies

Not mencioned exact quantities, because i'll eat for free, without taking care about BF...

[Disposable_Hero]

drol/test/deca/slin probably something like that would work.

D_H

[MYOBRAIN]

Originally posted by Disposable_Hero
Which of those drugs did you respond good to, and what doses were you running them at? What kind of gains did you get from your previous cycles.

D_H

Good ones - deca, durateston, dianabol, hemogenin

Shitty ones - winny, primo, cypionate(gyno very quickly), var.

Some example of a good cycle to me :
Deca - 300mg / week (6 weeks)
Hemogenin - 2 / day (5 last weeks)

With this i have NO gyno, no High BP, some water retention and gain some size that lasts ... although my nutrition at this time was very weak, i gained 1 1/2 legs and 1 inch arms.

[Disposable_Hero]

Weeks 1-4: 50mg Drol(hemogenin)
Weeks 1-10: 300mg Deca
Weeks 1-10: 500mg Test
-have nolvadex on hand for gyno

I think you would blow up on a cycle like this.

D_H

[MYOBRAIN]

Originally posted by liftchief
I wouldn't think you'd need slin this early into your cycling career- but i do think it can be used safely if you know what you are doing.

Well, i'm thinking about slin ... it's a little dangerous only for a prolonged time, i think ... My doubt is, how many times a day i can use humalog, without being diabetic ? One friend of mine, usually inject 60UI of humalinR (3x20UI) and he is not a diabetic, but is very huge. What is the limit between good results and being a sick person ?

[Disposable_Hero]

there is no need to go more than once a day unless your an experienced slin user. Once a day, post workout should be fine.

D_H

[MYOBRAIN]

I can get very easy nandrolone phenylpropionate ... How can i use this instead of deca ? Or deca is better ?