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Thread: After lots of thought: 2nd cycle Review, por favor!

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    After lots of thought: 2nd cycle Review, por favor!

    This is my second cycle. First was 8 weeks of 400mg test e, and 300 mg of deca. I'm 5'9'' 180 and 12% bf.

    After a lot of adjusting I think this is my plan. Its not for sure so you can make comments.

    1-6 tren 75 mg eod
    1-10 test E. 400 mg/ week
    1-10 eq 300 mg/ week
    8-10 anavar 20mg ed
    clomid and hcg post cycle

    What I am wondering is: is hcg necessary? and Is it better to have fina first weeks of the cycle or last weeks of the cycle? Please reply!

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    this seems like a well thought out cycle and good gains will definately occur. as for the fina i would think using towards the end would help solidify your gains from the test EQ...if you want to use HCG i've read that using mid cycle for two weeks at 500iu's a day is the best time....anyother comments by the vets are welcome.

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    I would up the test and eq each 100mg, put the fina at the end(you can start clomid a lot sooner), and drop the var unless you have a lot more (20mg ed for 2 weeks is kinda useless). Don't see any need for HCG!
    1-10 Test 500mg ew
    1-10 Eq 400mg ew
    8-13 Fina 75mg eod (I would run it ed imo)

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    What kind of gains did you get from your first cycle? Everything looks great to me except the var..20mg/day for 3 weeks is useless IMO. Anavar is a very mild drug, I would say 40mg/day for at least 4 weeks minimum.

    D_H

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    Bro..it would benefit you to either run the test through week 11 or stop the eq at week 9 as the eq takes 3 weeks to leave the systems versus two weeks for the test...

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    I'd run it like this...

    wk 1-12 test e @ 500mg/wk
    wk 1-12 eq @ 400mg/wk
    wk 8-14 fina @ 75mg ED or EOD (preferably ED)
    wk 8-14 var @ 50mg/ED or winny @ 50mg/ED (preferably var)

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    my first cycle i went from 170 at about 15% bf to 200 at 17% bf. I am now like 180 and 12%.

    So does everyone agree that I should probably do tren at the end? I can get more anavar so maybe I'll get another bottle and bump it to 40 mg ed for 4 weeks. Thanks guys.


    bump please

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    I think tren is effective at the beginning of a cycl as well as the end. I think you should run the var for even longer than 4 weeks actually, 6 would be better.

    D_H

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