Tell me, which of Needto's supplements have you used? What is your experience with AAS or supplements? Why should anyone here believe you? It's been years since I've been on this board, but I've been here over the years under a couple of different names, those of which escape me at the moment (irrelevant, anyways).
Let me give you a little info about myself.
I'm 29 years old. 6'0", currently 232 lbs. Bodyfat unknown, but I'd imagine somewhere in the high single digits at best, very low teens at worst. My physical stats are as follows:
Neck: 18.5"
Chest: 52.5"
Arms: 18.5"
Forearms: 14.0"
Waist: 34.0"
Thighs: 28.5"
Calves: 18.5"
I started lifting in 2000, and in 18 months time, I increased my weight from 155 to 195 naturally, before I finally hit a "wall". Finally, in 2003, after no mass increase despite increasing calories, I decided to kick things up a notch with supplementation.
In the past, I've cycled pro-hormones and AAS. In regard to AAS, I've ran approximately 9 or so cycles over a period of 4 years (2003 through 2006). Somewhere mid-2006, I stopped cycling AAS for a number of personal and professional reasons.
I've used supplements that have worked, and others that were pure junk. I've been leery of trying even pro-hormones, simply because part of the reason I stopped cycling AAS was because my wife and I wanted to start trying for kids; I knew that most supplements that WORKED, did so like AAS and shut down your HTPA.
I stumbled across EF's message board and chatted it up with needtogetaas. He assured a 100% money-back guarantee, so I thought what the hell, and I had planned on running Dieselbolan v2.0, and I had Unleashed, Need2Slin, and HCGenerate as "support" supplements. I fought with myself over cycling the Dieselbolan, because I knew what AAS used to do to me (acne, bloating, PCT), and ultimately, I decided since my wife and I haven't conceived yet (honestly, we're not trying all that hard, because I'm "ready" and she's "not"...but that's another story),
I didn't want to suppress my HTPA. I decided to put the Dieselbolan on "hold" (still sitting in my cabinet), and I thought I'd try a "hormone-free" experimental cycle of sorts with a short 4-week trial of Unleashed, HCGenerate, and Need2Slin. Not to say it hadn't been done before, but I really couldn't find any threads where someone cycled these supplements for a bulk/strength cycle only (as opposed to just using them for PCT). In 4 weeks time, I packed on 9 lbs. of lean mass, had ZERO bloat, ZERO acne, and ZERO hormone "crash". Honestly, it's hard to describe my cycle experience because there's nothing to compare it to. I've been used to AAS cycles, where gains just skyrocket out of nowhere.
With Needto's "hormone-free" supplements, the gains were slow and steady throughout the entire cycle. I gained an average of 2 lbs/week, and my strength gains doubled (and in some cases tripled) the normal rate of strength increase I typically saw without any supplementation. When I came off, there was no hormone crash. In fact, I continued to see strength increases two weeks after my last day "on". I kept ALL my strength and ALL my mass. I gained a total of 0.5" on my arms, 1.0" on my chest, and 1.0" on my thighs (I finished this cycle out at 236 lbs.).
Eight weeks after I finished my bulker, I decided to try a cutting cycle with Needto's stuff. I'm currently on my 4th week (of 6) with Bridge, Gear, Unleashed, Need2Slin, and Eviscerate (not made by Needto, but it was suggested by him). So far, I've leaned up in all of my "trouble" areas I've always had difficulty losing from. I've lost 4 lbs. (down to 232 from 236) on a conventional diet. I've cut my daily maintenance intake of calories by 750-1000 cals/day, yet my muscle measurements have NOT decreased. Starting this week through the end of my cycle, I'm switching up to a cyclic ketogenic diet, as these have always worked well for me "supplement-free", so I'm curious to see if my fat loss improves vs. the previous three weeks on a conventional "reduced calorie" diet.
The point I'm getting at is, with the great results I've seen, I'm finding it hard to believe that either (A) you've actually tried Needto's supplements; and/or (B) you don't know/understand the fundamentals of bodybuilding to see results from using supplementation.
And no, I don't even know needtogetaas personally. I have no vested interest, nor do I gain anything by defending his supplements on here. I just know, from MY experience, that the Needto supplements I've used have WORKED. I'm not sure what YOU might be doing wrong...
