My First Cycle! 500mg test e, 350 mg dbol weekly

[mrniceguy215]

my package of gear came in and i would like some opinons and advice on my first cycle. speak your mind im not a *****. I have been training for 2 years, i am 5'11 170. not sure of bf%. but here is all the goods i have gotten and my cycle plan. cant say the source but the information I'm giving should make it pretty apparent where it cam from. all (balkan Pharmaceuticals) except Femara and Test E.

CLOMID (50MG) 100 TABS
FEMARA (2.5MG) 50 TABS
DANABOL (50MG) 100 TABS 50mg a day split up 4 times so 12.5 mg every 4hr
TEST E (250MG/ML) 20ML ******* INJECTABLES
CYTOMEL (T3), 50 mcg/tab (double strenght), 60 tabs
CLENBUTEROL 20 mcg by Balkan Pharmaceuticals (Size: 100 tabs)

week1-2
# 50mcg T3 Per Day
# 80mcg Clenbuterol Per day

week 3
(Nothing)

week 4
# 50mcg T3 Per Day
# 80mcg Clenbuterol Per day
500 mg TEST E
350 MG DBOL- TABLETS

week 5
500 MG TEST E
350 MG DBOL

week 6-13
1.25 MG Femara (2 times a week Wednesday, Sunday)
500 MG TEST E
350 MG DBOL

week 14
# 50mcg T3 Per Day
# 80mcg Clenbuterol Per day
300 mg dbol

week 15
# 50mcg T3 Per Day
# 80mcg Clenbuterol Per day
200 mg dbol

week 16
day 1 250mg clomid
day 2 200 mg clomid
day 3 150 mg through out the rest of the week.

week 17
100mg per day clomid

week 18
50mg per day clomid


there it is let me know if this is a good plan or how i can make it better. o yea i would be taking 1/4th of the 50mg dbol tablets every 4th hour every day of the week if i may have confused you.

[Ernst]

I don't like it, for a lot of reasons.

How old are you?

No idea on bodyfat? I'm guessing at least a bit chubby or else why the t3 and clen?

[mrniceguy215]

what are the reasons? looking for advice. and yes you would be correct that is why i am incorporating the t3 and clen.

[mrniceguy215]

please explain your thoughts to me on my cycle plan

[mrniceguy215]

I don't like it, for a lot of reasons.

How old are you?

No idea on bodyfat? I'm guessing at least a bit chubby or else why the t3 and clen?

o yea im 20

[Ernst]

I'll give you two of the reasons, and then you'll tell me how old you are?


1. Too long on the dbol.
2. Letro is probably overkill, and on top of that the half life is like 2 days.

There's more too...

[mrniceguy215]

im twenty. would you suggest taking the letro if symptoms of gyno start and only when it starts. the reason i want to take the letro during the entire cycle is becasue i dont want to worry about gyno period and it will keep water retnetion down witch is high for both of the types of gear im using.
and why do you say to long on the dbol simply becasue of liver toxicty? please explain resons a little more i value your opinon and want to understand why your telling me these things completly with no guess work if you get what im saying.

[mrniceguy215]

happy 420

[Ernst]

I don't smoke anymore. Haven't in years. It has turned me into a humorless asshole lol.

I don't know how to be nice and tell you what I think you need to hear. The cycle blows. Period. Even the pct sucks. You are too young, too light, and too pudgy. It's good that you want to improve yourself and everyone here will wholly support you in that. I think for now just a good diet and workout plan is what the doctor ordered. I believe you really have the potential to see some great results naturally at this point. Check out the diet forum. Read the stickies and formulate a plan that you think will suit you and your goals. Post it for review. There are numerous good workout plans to be found in the stickies in the "workout questions" forum as well.

Yes, 12 weeks of dbol can be a bit hard on the liver . That is why I said too long. As far as the letro goes, it's pretty harsh stuff. I like having it in reserve, but usually we would advise starting with arimidex as a first line of defense AI while one gauges their own need for this sort of ancillary. Hell, seems some people don't even need that! I'm not so lucky . Also, at your age the whole sex hormone thing has not fully matured. You should have pretty high test naturally right now, and messing with AAS now could possibly have a lasting negative impact on your natural well into the future. Take advantage of your natural advantage for now.

I can see you put in some research, and I suggest you keep reading! It goes a long way! Welcome to AR!

[mrniceguy215]

thanks for your advice but i mean i bought the stuff im not gonna let it go bad ya know. how do you suggest i use the dbol. and how should i revamp my pct

P.S. i added good approval to your reputation maybe you could return the favor?

[marcus300]

Your to young to start steroids, you can cause yourself serious problems what will effect you for the rest of your life. By shutting down your natrual testosterone when its not fully developed you can cause yourself to have low test for life plus a whole lot more issues, you should use what you have naturally at your age and thats a high amount of natural test, i wouldnt shut your system down before its maatured, plain stupid.

[mrniceguy215]

thank you for your advice

[marcus300]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[mrniceguy215]

has anyone used ******* injectables before? lmk

[mrniceguy215]

bump

[lovbyts]

In other words you dont care about what it will/might do to you, you dont want advise, only answers, correct?

[marcus300]

I doubt anyone with any kind of knowledge will advice a 20yr kid to start taking steroids, the only guys who will advice will probably be very young immature kids, this site tries to educate members in the right direction and not advice them to do something what could cause them serious problems for the rest of their life/

[Dr Pepper]

^^^^^ I think your right...

You know mrniceguy215 you come on here for advice and when you get GREAT advice from two vets and you don't take it... dosen't make a whole lot of sense...???

[mrniceguy215]

i value there opinion and am very glad they posted them, but i want advice on my cycle plan not on weather i should use them or not. put it this way say i was 25 and 210 pound 7% bodyfat working out for ten years that being said how does my cycle look. its not that i dont value your advice its not what im asking for though. feel free to still critique my cycle and point out flaws. thank you.

[mrniceguy215]

two words i can think of to describe dr.pepper

[marcus300]

i value there opinion and am very glad they posted them, but i want advice on my cycle plan not on weather i should use them or not. put it this way say i was 25 and 210 pound 7% bodyfat working out for ten years that being said how does my cycle look. its not that i dont value your advice its not what im asking for though. feel free to still critique my cycle and point out flaws. thank you.

This shows how immature you are, this isnt a game here this is serious stuff and no one here is going to play act and pretend your 25yrs old.

No one will give a 20yr old kid advice on how to cycle because you havent stopped developing yet and using steroids can have a huge negative effect on your own hormonal system, do you really want to have low test for life? do you want to have ecrection problems? depression? mood swings? infact i can tell i am wasting my time here even trying to convince you, so again no one here will advice someone so young to use AAS.

[mrniceguy215]

i understand and am happy that you posted your opinon. but thats not what this thread is about and i used that example of me being 25 to show that. not to pretend i was 25. to be completly honest marcus3000 you really want to help a novice out help me with my cycle because im going to take them, i paid for it took the risks of ordering it and it actually came. so the best thing you could do for me right now is help me with my cycle plan not preach to me.

[mrniceguy215]

this is not a "Should i start a first cycle" thread. these are the drugs and the cycle im thinking about using but i need advice on it and constructive criticism please!!!!!!!!!

[marcus300]

No one is going to help you with the cycle, its no excuse that all because you have bought the steroids you have to use them, come on be serious do you know what these could do to someone like you at your age!

I think its time for me to leave your thread.

[ScotchGuard]

Be careful mrniceguy215 what you gain at 20, you could be paying back at 25.

[mrniceguy215]

bump

[njviking]

listen....read...research...read some more and come back in about 4-5 years. until than comprehend what you read and dont bother asking for advice from mature, experienced adults that know what they are talking about unless you want the truth.

sorry dude but you can BUMP this thread all you want...but dont expect the Vets here that "really know" what they are talking about to reply to you let alone give you cycle advice.

this isn't PS2 or xbox live....its your life & future life!!!

thread closed.

[mrniceguy215]

i completly understand what you guys are telling me and where its coming from. you guys are looking out for my best interest but you are generalizing every younger male bb with the idea that it will seriously mess me up when you actually have no clue how my body will handle it. im not flaming thats just my opinion on your opinion lol. the facts are that i have all this gear and nothing to do with im not just gonna be able to stare at it for the next 4 years ya know im going to take some. Maybe i should split this one big cycle into 2 smaller ones.

again i apperciate you opinons but pls post only if you can help me out on my cycle or maybe a smarter begginer cycle.

[mrniceguy215]

maybe even 3 smaller cycles hit me with your ideas / thoughts about it

[.EA.]

11 weeks of dbol at a retarded dose? Are you kidding me? I did 40mg and I blew up. What are you trying to do? Grow another head?

[JasonT]

I don't smoke anymore. Haven't in years. It has turned me into a humorless asshole lol.

haha...same here

[mrniceguy215]

lol yea same shit here. still notice whenever its 420 must be reamining symptoms of drug abuse on the brain lol

[mrniceguy215]

11 weeks of dbol at a retarded dose? Are you kidding me? I did 40mg and I blew up. What are you trying to do? Grow another head?

what would you suggest i do then?

[NMacFar]

what would you suggest i do then?

Flush it, otherwise you'll be flushing your liver down the toilet with all that dbol. So yea, flush it

[mrniceguy215]

ehh im ok. ill probably keep it

[lovbyts]

Time to find a new forum where they dont care about age, health or anything to do with the future. This forum is not it. We are about education and doing things the right way.

Your age, diet, health, goals, experience all have something to do with it here. Other forums wont care.

It's good you are being honest about your age; we are also only being honest.

[mrniceguy215]

bump

[Hard.On]

^^^^^ I think your right...

You know mrniceguy215 you come on here for advice and when you get GREAT advice from two vets and you don't take it... dosen't make a whole lot of sense...???

Reminds me of this other dipsh!t i kno

[mrniceguy215]

started my cycle i am getting ripped son

[Dr Pepper]

Yeh it does a bit but we all learn from our mistakes, plus I didn't go as far as this guy...