Help me put my first cycle together *not a newbie*

[Cavallino]

Hey, I need some help putting my first cycle together. There is so much mixed info out there that I'm a bit confused. I want to go into this cycle feeling 100% confident and with a clearly drawn out game plan.

I'm looking to do a 12 week test e cycle. I would like to kick start it with dbol at 40mg ed for weeks 1-4. I am also very interested in adding anavar towards the end of the cycle for vascularity and hardness, any suggestions on dosage and duration? Would winny suit me better?

I am thinking 12weeks, rather than the average 10week cycle, due to the fact that test e is a long ester. Any input on this?

I'm considering running hcg throughout the cycle and into pct, mainly for testicular atrophy. Again, there is so much mixed info that I'm not sure how much per week, and when I should be taking. Any help here?

Should nolva/clomid/adex be run at low doses throughout the cycle? Again, lots of mixed info here?

I plan on starting my pct 2 weeks after my last injection. Not 100% sure on which compounds, doses, and duration.

175lbs
5'11"
12% bf
Diet&training in check

[Cavallino]

bump

[ottomaddox]

Too Young, Sorry. Too many compounds, you're all over the place. You need to Research.

[Cavallino]

Too Young, Sorry. Too many compounds, you're all over the place. You need to Research.

Starting AAS at my age is a personal choice. I have researched AAS for years, I am not a newbie. My diet is in check, and so is my training. I want advice on my cycle, not advice on my lifestyle.

Too many compounds? My entire cycle is based on test. I want to add dbol in the beginning for a kick-start as test e has a long ester and won't kick in until week 5 or so. I want to end the cycle with anavar or winny for their cutting qualities. And hcg is only to combat testicular atrophy. Where exactly am I running too many compounds?

[Cavallino]

Am I posting in the wrong forum?

[GsX827]

No but most of these people have a lovely bias about when to start taking aab rather then give you advice they will try to convince you it's not a good idea.

[marcus300]

Your to young to take steroids, if you shut down your natural testosterone before your body as stoppe growing you could cause yourself serious damage what could be with you for the rest of your life, wait until you have fully developed in body,mind and hormonal.

[marcus300]

You was on your first cycle 4 yrs ago when you was 18yrs old http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=273791 and in other threads you was 170lbs, so after cycling and 4 yrs of training and eating not like a newbie to this day your 175lbs?? you have put on 5 lbs in 4 yrs woooow you need to sort your diet out and stop cycling, you also need to stop lying.

[Cavallino]

Okay. I edited my age out. Age issues aside, can I get some help? I already have the gear, I'm going to use it. Better if I do it right the first time, no?


I've been reading and reading practically every stickie on this site. I would just like some solid confirmation on a good pct protocol, and if I should run HCG.................

[GsX827]

Okay. I edited my age out. Age issues aside, can I get some help? I already have the gear, I'm going to use it. Better if I do it right the first time, no?


I've been reading and reading practically every stickie on this site. I would just like some solid confirmation on a good pct protocol, and if I should run HCG.................

Make a new name, tell them your 25. you might get some answers.

[Cavallino]

You was on your first cycle 4 yrs ago when you was 18yrs old http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=273791 and in other threads you was 170lbs, so after cycling and 4 yrs of training and eating not like a newbie to this day your 175lbs?? you have put on 5 lbs in 4 yrs woooow you need to sort your diet out and stop cycling, you also need to stop lying.

took a dbol only cycle when I was much younger, I wouldn't call that a cycle. I was young and very ignorant. Once I learned of how stupid that was, I stopped immediately.

**I've been researching this site everyday since. I am most definetely ready.

thanks for the concern though.

now back to the orignal post..

[Cavallino]

Make a new name, tell them your 25. you might get some answers.

lol.... that's ridiculous.

seriously though, I'm doing it either way. I will have to go on a "basic" pct routine clomid/nolva/ldex. I guess I will have to find out if HCG is right for me the hard way. Thanks for nothing...

[Noles12]

Make a new name, tell them your 25. you might get some answers.

Great advice here.

Do you think we say not to start at 18 just for fun?

I personally started young but i still am young so i dont know if it was a mistake or not yet. But i know now that i wasnt ready then.

Also in 4 years he has gained 4 pounds. That shows his training and/or diet arent in check. Steroids arent the easy way out. Which once again i learned from experience when i was younger.

[Mooseman33]

no way you have been researching this site daily.

u state ur not a newbie but all ur questions are exactly that, noob questions.

i mean really, u dont even know if adex/clomid/nolv should be ran whole cycle...that screams NOOB..
first cycle should be one compound, not 2 or 3, but 1...again, stuff anyone who is hear daily should no.

now to ur attitude,,,,ur a moron, the statement"i have the gear, im going to do it regardless" shows me ur a thick headed child who will be making threads in a matter of weeks sayin "HELP"...

do ur damm research son, learn the right way so when u do mature enough u will be ready...

[Hard.On]

This is a funny thread to read.
You should take the advice and say thanks for something.