Is an AI needed for Dbol?

[natedawg429]

I'm leaving for basic training in a couple months and I've been doing some extreme conditioning. I was thinking about using dbol in low to moderate doses as a supplement pretty much. I've seen people get extreme gains of just dbol cycles and keep a lot of the gains even though I know, to keep most of the gains is hard and not likly. My question is, do I need to use arimidex on a dbol only cycle? And how would a pct look like? Just nolvadex or clomid also?

[tboney]

Age?, stats?, cycle exp.?
What are your goals?

[Hazard]

well..... 1st off it seems as if you already know its not a good idea so I wont get into that.

An AI isn't a necessity to run while on it but it's good to have on hand just incase you need it.

A dbol only cycle will shut you down..... so i'd run a Nolva pct 40/40/40/20

How old are you? If you are training for the military - this may not be the best option for you. Especially for the extreme conditioning you're doing. The last thing you want is water weight..... I personally would lay off anything and just work as hard as possible. The last thing you'll want is to get slower from the added weight.....

~Haz~

[Hazard]

Age?, stats?, cycle exp.?
What are your goals?

Sorry mate..... you beat me to it. Figured he knew it was a bad idea and was going to doit anyways.....

~Haz~

[tboney]

No bro.. two heads are always better than one!!

[natedawg429]

I'm 23 going to be a junior in college when I come back from basic. lI'm 6'1 and 210lbs. I've been working out since junior year in high school. My goal is to just add a little strength on fast so I can promote to possibly an E-3 before basic. Because if I do good enough on this PT test I will promote.

[tboney]

I dont recommend that you take anything. You are to young in my opinion. Even if you were age appropriate, not about to go thru basic training, dbol would be a bad choice for your goals.

[natedawg429]

I understand I'm 23 and a little young. I have already done one cycle of test e and dbol. I guess what my question is, do you need an AI for dbol only and I got that I don't need it but only incase. So, incase I need it at what dose would be recommended for dbol only?

[natedawg429]

Or should I just use nolvadex instead of armidex? I just want to block all chances of getting gyno. What would be the best way and the dosages?

[tboney]

I would not use dbol. It is not conducive to extreme conditioning. To much water retention. More chances to have bp issues.

If it were me I would use var. After all your not looking to get huge...you said you just want strength gains.

[tboney]

Or should I just use nolvadex instead of armidex? I just want to block all chances of getting gyno. What would be the best way and the dosages?

Use nolva in pct. Use adex during cycle if it is needed. Are you planning to cycle during basic??

[natedawg429]

Alright so no clomid needed? How should I dose the arimidex? .25 ed or eod or a higher dose? And no I'm planning on ending a month before basic so the water is out.

[tboney]

So are you gonna go with the dbol? Anavar will be far better for strength and keeping your gains. Those dbol gains fade fast..... I am not a fan of taking an AI unless you really need it. With a few weeks of just dbol you may or may not need it.

Dbol will shut you down! Why no test? You will still need a full pct..

[natedawg429]

The reason why I don't add test is because I don't really have an extra month to spare before I leave and test blew me up I get over 30lbs I don't want to bring on too much suspicon before I leave and in for good. I know I just want to make sure I add the arimidex in because I don't want to get gyno - thats my biggest fear so if I stop it before it can happen I'll be happy. Also, the reason for not anavar or something else is because I got a shit ton of dbols to use.

[tboney]

You would be running the test just to keep your sex drive in order. Running 150 mgs twice a week would suffice and it is not going to blow you up.

If you are running just dbol you might not need an AI. You have to have some estro or you will have some issues. Just get some and keep it on hand.

[natedawg429]

Alright, so if I did test for just the 6wks I do dbol that would make things a lot better? I would diff need to use armidex tho so what dose would you recommend with that? And if I test do you still say just nolva for pct or do I now bring in the clomid?

[tboney]

You might need the adex... Just remember that having to little estrogen can cause a whole host of different issues. Again, .25mgs eod to start with. That could be increased to .25ed. I would not take more that .5ed.

I would definately take nolva and clomid for pct.

[natedawg429]

Alright thanks a lot man.. this is probably how I'm gunna run this then. I don't want anything to crazy before basic but when I come back it's all over.