3rd cylce ??

[FASTBOATS25]

I am 26 and have done a test e only, test e dbol and deca with proper down time in between. i am 6 3 215 and understand how important your diet is. This is what I was thinking...

week 1-10 sus 250 500 a week either eod or twice a week (have heard both)
dbol week 1-4 20mg a day
winny week 7-the day i start my pct. (18 days after last injection) 50mg a day

I have HCG but not sure if i need it.

I plan on running the standard clomid and nolva PCT but wast sure if i should slip the HCG in between.

Thanks

[Knockout_Power]

winny week 7-the day i start my pct. (18 days after last injection) 50mg a day

please explain? you are running a 10 week cycle but starting PCT at week 7?

[FASTBOATS25]

NO NO! Thinking about starting winny on week 7 and running it past my last injection right up to the day i start my pct which will be 18 days after my last injection. PCT start time for winny is 1 day after you last dosage right? PCT will start week 12 (18 days after last injection. Sorry that was confusing. Any help is appreciated.

[N2Deep]

Dbol Seems low. I would go twice a week with the sus. Im guessing that at 6 3 215 your pretty lean already????

[Knockout_Power]

well then, it looks pretty good. Dbol is on the lower side but definately decent enough for gains.

[FASTBOATS25]

I have enough dbol to do double that. I would consider myself lean but i would like to keep the water weight to a minimum. I can bump up the dbol if you guys think i should. Thanks

[N2Deep]

Double your Dbol.

[FASTBOATS25]

What do you guys think about the HCG>? needed or no? I don't know much about it but have read that it can make gyno worse. Let me know what you think

[N2Deep]

The bloat will drop fast from the dbol and your sus levels are low enough you shouldnt get much bloat from it.

[N2Deep]

Never used HCG I am partial to gh.

[FASTBOATS25]

bump

[AlphaMaleDawg]

yea I added 40mg of dbol to the exact same second cycle you did and gained great. I felt like if I had done less, I wouldn't have gotten the most out of it. 40mg is my go-to dose for dbol

[Neevor]

You wont need HCG for this one. If you were running a third compound like Tren E or certainly Deca then I'd say yes. I've found I don't need HCG on cycles under 750 a week for less than 12 weeks (unless they include deca). Out of curiosity, why arent you running a DHT?

The win is a great addition to the end IMHO.

I hate sust because of that stupid 4 ester crap. Such a dumb idea. You need to run it every other day if you want to avoid ups and downs. I am just going by memory here but I think 40 of it is prop right? that means by day 2 you've already metabolized like half of the 250. May as well run prop EOD and save the bloat.

[FASTBOATS25]

Yeah, I have heard mixed things about the Sus injections. I'm a little confused about DHT. Is that not what the some steroids convert to that causes balding? Can someone please clarify what he means in this particular situation. Side note- is it true that Dbol is the worse for causing hair loss? Does that work on body hair too? haha cause i might take the swap j/k

[Neevor]

yes Deca is a DHT. You've already run one so you should be fine. Was your moms dad bald? If not then its probably pretty likely that you arent predisposed to balding and wont have issues.

The best cycles have a Test, a 19nor (like your win or Var or Anadrol), and a DHT (Tren, Deca). They work synergistically.

Hair growth is a side effect of every kind of test out there as far as I know. If you dont want more body hair dont do roids. Otherwise get ready to be happy being a) a hairy beast or b) shaving your legs.

[FASTBOATS25]

HAHA! I got you, i thought that was what you meant. I ran Deca last cycle. Lucky for me no one in my family is bald and I was a hairy beast long before AAS came in to my life. lol Thanks for the input!