What would you recommend for a kickstart?

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Im having a tough time trying to think of which compound I should go with for a kickstart on my 2nd cycle

Id like to try and avoid any bloating. Looking for a summer cycle kick start

recommendations?

[Kibble]

Ever look into Tbol?

[Spartans09]

Tbol or anavar.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Ever look into Tbol?

yes, thats one of my options
D-bol is defintely out of the question

Havent read too much into anavar yet

[Kibble]

Well, I just ran Tbol at 70mg ed for 4 weeks. Back pumps were very mild, and there was zero bloat. Fvck Dbol- I will never touch it again.

I have no experience with Anavar, so I will not speak on it

[Hard.On]

what is your second cycle plan?

[LiftedDuramax2007]

what is your second cycle plan?

Test E 500mg/wk unless alot of you think it should be bumped to 750mg/wk?
And EQ 400mg/wk
Both ran weeks 1-12
Probably going to add HCG in for the last 4 weeks

Ive been told by a few to use test prop for weeks 1-4 as the kickstart and run my Test E and EQ as planned

What do you all think?

[tronics]

Test E 500mg/wk unless alot of you think it should be bumped to 750mg/wk?
And EQ 400mg/wk
Both ran weeks 1-12
Probably going to add HCG in for the last 4 weeks

Ive been told by a few to use test prop for weeks 1-4 as the kickstart and run my Test E and EQ as planned

What do you all think?

i would leave test at 500, but up the EQ to 600mgs a week...

im liking 600mg right now alot better then when i ran 400mg a week..

[LiftedDuramax2007]

i would leave test at 500, but up the EQ to 600mgs a week...

im liking 600mg right now alot better then when i ran 400mg a week..

good to hear that. I was debating on running it at 600mg a week
And actually Id be running the EQ weeks 1-14

But since it takes so damn long to kick in and itll take the test 4-5 weeks to kick in Im looking for something that wont bloat me to kick start my late summer cycle

[Just2Big]

I will have to look but Im sure you posted pics and you was planning a cycle and every one said hell no. Im thinking you were over 30%BF. I guess with that said what are your stats. If it was not you sorry for this post.

EDIT: Ok it was you. Fireguy put you at 30%BF. What are your stats now. Probly need a pic since fireguy said 30%BF and you said 18%BF. Also since no one asked the OP. This guy just got off a 12 week cycle within the past couple weeks and I am guessing is about to start another. You should not start a new cycle.

[Tyler694]

Ever look into Tbol?

ftw!!

[Hard.On]

i would leave test at 500, but up the EQ to 600mgs a week...

im liking 600mg right now alot better then when i ran 400mg a week..

I like this.
You want low bloat and a kick-start. Try adding in 4 weeks of test prop 50mg ED.

[Kiki]

love test prop for a kick start

[Kiki]

I will have to look but Im sure you posted pics and you was planning a cycle and every one said hell no. Im thinking you were over 30%BF. I guess with that said what are your stats. If it was not you sorry for this post.

EDIT: Ok it was you. Fireguy put you at 30%BF. What are your stats now. Probly need a pic since fireguy said 30%BF and you said 18%BF. Also since no one asked the OP. This guy just got off a 12 week cycle within the past couple weeks and I am guessing is about to start another. You should not start a new cycle.

Oh yea I remember that thread. Here it is -> http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...83#post5140783

[gbrice75]

What about dbol and an AI to help curb bloating?

[Gaspari1255]

M-Drol sounds perfect for you if you can still find it, despite it's shitty sides.

[Just2Big]

What happend to asking for stats before shouting out advice all day long. This guy was 30%bf around 45 days ago so is most likly not ready for AAS. And on top of that he just ended a 12 week cycle within the last couple weeks. So his body needs PCT and rest. Not another cycle. This guy is 240lbs and his lifts after 5 weeks of AAS were less then my 185lb friend who does not lift at all. He should NOT be using AAS.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

I will have to look but Im sure you posted pics and you was planning a cycle and every one said hell no. Im thinking you were over 30%BF. I guess with that said what are your stats. If it was not you sorry for this post.

EDIT: Ok it was you. Fireguy put you at 30%BF. What are your stats now. Probly need a pic since fireguy said 30%BF and you said 18%BF. Also since no one asked the OP. This guy just got off a 12 week cycle within the past couple weeks and I am guessing is about to start another. You should not start a new cycle.

Im only planning the 2nd cycle bud not starting already. Id rather do PCT correctly than jump into a new cycle too soon

And I did one of those hydrostatic tests or whatever and was 19.2% that was 2 weeks ago and have leaned up slightly more but not too much.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

What happend to asking for stats before shouting out advice all day long. This guy was 30%bf around 45 days ago so is most likly not ready for AAS. And on top of that he just ended a 12 week cycle within the last couple weeks. So his body needs PCT and rest. Not another cycle. This guy is 240lbs and his lifts after 5 weeks of AAS were less then my 185lb friend who does not lift at all. He should NOT be using AAS.

Im 210lbs and I didnt know I had to have a 315lb bench before starting AAS?

My deads are up to 350 and leg press is up to 730 for 1RM. I have a nerve issue in my back and cant do squats and it also hinders my deads. That and I have uneven legs. One is 3/4" shorter than the other

Yesterday for my last set I repped 100lb DBs 13 reps on flat bench

For those of you who gave advice, thank you. I was thinking of test prop as a kick start, does that mean I reduce Test E to compensate for the prop that Im taking and then raise test e when I come off the prop?

[LiftedDuramax2007]

taken a week ago, Im 1lb heavier since this pic and look alittle leaner. My belly isnt that bad but im leaning forward so its hanging down some. Chest is nice and solid. Probably after a few more lbs lost itll be "really" nice and defined

[Hazard]

That and I have uneven legs. One is 3/4" shorter than the other

After you hit 2000 posts i'd like to recommend we change your title to "Weeble Wobble"

~Haz~

[Gaspari1255]

^ lmao

[Hazard]

I was just joking btw..... LOL don't wanna sound like a dick....

~Haz~

[LiftedDuramax2007]

I was just joking btw..... LOL don't wanna sound like a dick....

~Haz~

Its ok, I dont even get it? explain?

[Ashop]

Im having a tough time trying to think of which compound I should go with for a kickstart on my 2nd cycle

Id like to try and avoid any bloating. Looking for a summer cycle kick start

recommendations?

What are your goals?

[corsa5000]

you look about 30-40lbs away from having abs

[LiftedDuramax2007]

you look about 30-40lbs away from having abs

Looks are deciving buddy, Im more like 15lbs away from showing abs and 25 away from having defined abs.
You will all see

to the post before his. My goals are to keep adding quality mass and trim up.

I had no side effects at all even with my high BF%

[baseline_9]

taken a week ago, Im 1lb heavier since this pic and look alittle leaner. My belly isnt that bad but im leaning forward so its hanging down some. Chest is nice and solid. Probably after a few more lbs lost itll be "really" nice and defined
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This quote makes me laff. You are joking arnt you? If not you need to take a long hard look at where you "actually" are with your physique

[LiftedDuramax2007]

This quote makes me laff. You are joking arnt you? If not you need to take a long hard look at where you "actually" are with your physique

Dude my defintion of nice and defined may be differnet from yours. Im not talking about being shredded and not able to pinch any skin because its so tight.

Some of you really need to just chill the fvck out

[Kibble]

OP, you have a ton of muscle under that fat. Once you cut up you will look incredible.

Look into clen and t3. I have already dropped 20lbs in just over 2 months. If you run it while cycling, you should be able to drop the bodyfat fast and keep most of your muscle

[C-MaN]

A good kick in the balls always works for me but on a serious note. Dont go with clen and t3 unless you know your shit. Tren is always lovely for burning fat But again do your research!

[gbrice75]

OP, don't let any clowns get you down. Yea, you have some body fat to deal with, and I agree with you that you're about 15lbs (of fat) away from showing abs. However, you definitely have a nice solid base under there and are pretty beefy - that's an accomplishment in itself. Keep your chin up!

[Kibble]

A good kick in the balls always works for me but on a serious note. Dont go with clen and t3 unless you know your shit. Tren is always lovely for burning fat But again do your research!

That advice just sounds retarded IMO. Clen and T3 is much more manageable than Tren in relation to side effects. Also, I am sure fatloss is better with clen and t3.
With a proper dosing protocol, clen and t3 is not dangerous.

Don't forget.... Tren ALSO enlarges the heart... so don't come back with some bullshit

[C-MaN]

Retarded?? People take clen and t3 way to lightly. You need to know you doses and when to cycle on and off. Or take benadryl on your 3rd week so you dont mess yourself up. Ya Tren is devils brew I was just making the statement that if your going to run clen and t3 without knowledge then you might as well do tren as well. Really mess yourself up.

[Just2Big]

taken a week ago, Im 1lb heavier since this pic and look alittle leaner. My belly isnt that bad but im leaning forward so its hanging down some. Chest is nice and solid. Probably after a few more lbs lost itll be "really" nice and defined

Ok well you look a lot leaner then you were in the last pic I seen of you. Im sure the cycle you just got off helped a lot. I dont mean to flame you but you did just finish a cycle and another right after would really hurt your body. Plus your last pics looked real bad. You dont need to bulk any more. You need to cut now for 3-4 months and make sure you do a lot of cardio as well as a good diet. And you will be looking real good. After that if you want to get bigger try a lean bulk or bulk. Again I am still not impressed with your lifts at all. Especially while you were just on a cycle. But dont let me get you down all people are differnt. Keep training hard and push yourself. Without a doubt you look better. But your ready to cut IMO, or not. Take it easy OP

[Just2Big]

OP, don't let any clowns get you down. Yea, you have some body fat to deal with, and I agree with you that you're about 15lbs (of fat) away from showing abs. However, you definitely have a nice solid base under there and are pretty beefy - that's an accomplishment in itself. Keep your chin up!

Gbrice how can you say this dude is beffy but on big kountry's thread you said he gained almost all fat. Big kountry looks like the hulk next to this guy.

[LiftedDuramax2007]

Gbrice how can you say this dude is beffy but on big kountry's thread you said he gained almost all fat and didnt look good. Big kountry looks like the hulk next to this guy.

I agree lol

And Im not even done with this cycle yet Im almost on week 9 and probably going to go for 16 weeks. I have the test but we will see how I feel come week 12 and if progress is slowing.

I got sick 3 weeks ago for a full week, had nothing to do with the test though. Ate like crap and didnt work out at all, I felt like I went back 2-3 weeks. But since feeling better Ive had one cheat meal and been doing pretty damn good with my diet. But it can be better, I need to work on meal 2 and 5

[Just2Big]

I dont know where your at with your cycle cause you said you were on week 5 in Feb. Either way. You look better. If you decide to extend your cycle dont go nuts. Keep lifting hard and make sure your diet is spot on to get the best results. Like I said you look a lot better then that last pics. You do have a good base but I think you started your cycle a little too high in the BF. I cant remember how long you have been lifting. I think you said 3 years. If so I am not impressed with your lifts and you body really doesnt look like you have been lifting too long. You may just have bad genetics. But then again you are starting from a heavier weight and working your way down while trying to gain muscle. Again just my opinion. Not trying to insult you. Im not trying to be rude. If you want maybe post your diet and training up and we can see what your doing and how your progressing. Maybe do some tweking and try to get you were you want to be a little faster. If not just do your thing and hope it goes well for you.