Supposedly Safe for Teens?

[SEAviator]

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[InknSteel]

Can't help with your questions/concerns as I don't know a whole lot about winstrol but I would like to give you 2 big thumbs up for doing your research and making a well educated post instead of just jumping into the world of aas usage. Your a breathe of fresh air right now, there are literally multiple posts here daily from <21 y/o's asking what compounds to use and then getting mad at the vets when they tell them that aas usage at there age is harmful. Enough preaching by me though, great post man and free bump for ya!

[ferocious bubble]

^^ yes i agree most 18 year olds come in here talking about there test cycle or some bull crap. I btw am 18 too and have gained 20 pounds in the last 5 months through diet and training and lost 3% body fat. It can be done naturally

[SEAviator]

Thanks for the support man... Its hard enough seeing everyone I know my age using gear, big guys treating me like garbage cause Im not that big enough, while I know its the best to wait until im all growned up...

But what my personal trainer told me (I really thought he was extremely educated in bodybuilding) shocked me and I had to do some research... I just want to peace my mind cause an argument like that makes my mind go mad..

I would normally find it out by myself but I honestly dont know squat about steroids.. Will resolve that in the upcoming years..

[SEAviator]

^^ yes i agree most 18 year olds come in here talking about there test cycle or some bull crap. I btw am 18 too and have gained 20 pounds in the last 5 months through diet and training and lost 3% body fat. It can be done naturally

Nice to hear man, congratz on that dude, amazing.. Any tips? That's an insane amount especially considering that you LOST fat haha

[SEAviator]

Anyone to answer my question please?

[Hard.On]

^^ yes i agree most 18 year olds come in here talking about there test cycle or some bull crap. I btw am 18 too and have gained 20 pounds in the last 5 months through diet and training and lost 3% body fat. It can be done naturally

This is a lie.

This can be done.
But this member did not.
He is a pathological liar who has nothing to do but post junk on this forum

But you have a good base. I would say focus on your diet. We can help you here if you need it. There is a diet forum. In 6-7 years return here weighing 200lbs and well point you in the right direction

[Hard.On]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146
read this

Tell your trainer to join this forum. He shouldnt be spreading that garbage to kids

[SEAviator]

I have that website bookmarked as well as 4 others including a video saying why teens shouldnt use steroids but not one discusses anything related to what I asked in this thread

I just want to know if he was right with winstrol and similar steroids, why he said that, why anabolics 2006 say that, what it means, what do they actually do to the endrocrin system and why?

I have most things in check, (not saying perfect, thats kinda impossible) I just need to get this answered so I stop stressing myself, elevating my cortisol levels and breakign my muscle..

[SEAviator]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=398146
read this

Tell your trainer to join this forum. He shouldnt be spreading that garbage to kids

Hey man thanks for helping me out, but sory man but that thread, though very useful to simplify the dangerous of steroids for teens is kinda vague..

If you read the thread you'll read this trainer has a degree in bio chemistry, and I directly quoted two lines from anabolics book, all inferring something that winstrol doesnt affect the endocrin system which is our biggest concern..

Bro science wont ease my questioning. I need someone with a strong scientific evidence or something to lay me the facts so I can hush my trainer and dont worry about it anymore...

I expect an answer such as this: Even though this steroids have the properties of ____ _____ ____, seeming to not affect the endocrin system, its properties of ____ ____ _____ still indirectly affect ______ in _____ way and that's why these steroids are also dangerous while being a teen.....

[SEAviator]

Bump

Please guys... I took my time to thorougly write down my question instead of doing what every other teen does..

[D_iamond]

i have never used and never will use winni but the fact that you have to run pct after means that it shuts down your hpta so no not good for kids
peace

[Arian]

Direct Quote from Anabolics 2009:

"All anabolic/androgenic steroids when taken in doses sufficient to promote muscle gain are expected to suppress endogenous testosterone production. Stanozolol is no exception, and is noted for its strong influence on the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis. Clinical studies giving 10mg per day to healthy male subjects for 14 days caused the mean plasma testosterone level to fall by 55%. Without the intervention of testosterone-stimulating substances, testosterone levels should return to normal within 1-4 months of drug secession. Note that prolonged hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism can develop secondary to steroid abuse necessitating medical intervention."

I hope that helps and that you appreciate me typing all that crap. lol.

[SEAviator]

OMG DUDE THANKS!!!!!!!!!!! That was exactly what I was looking for!!!!!

After reading a bunch of stuff this weekend Im postivie..

Im positive that before using gear Ill do these things

Read Anabolics 2014 and 2015

One more book of steroids...

Checked with you guys about my cycle, check with a doctor to get my blood tests and shizz done..

Must have competed in a min of 4 natural shows.. I must win one..

Be ~200lbs at 8%bf, that will be hard..

So yeah.. Those are my goals before going to the dark side..

I will just go from having the perfect build, to becoming a freak..

[Arian]

That is the best way to go. Set yourself realistic, attainable goals. Instead of just saying " I want to be big ". I certainly hope you get where you want to be.