Test P 8weeks 500mg

[big_ron]

hey im considering doing a Test P 8weeks 500mg cycle.

im 21
210lbs
6ft
body fat about 15%
training 3-5yrs seriously 3
5days a week, diet good, fine tuning now before i start

previous cycles:
deca 200mg/we for 12 weeks
stan 50mg eod for 4 weeks
(dumbest things ever! i know!)
fairly shut down after this, got alot of gains surprisingly (15lb) and kept most
no PCT
Done tones! of research since then

2nd cycle
test c 300mg per week for 12 weeks
deca 200mg per week for 10 weeks
gained 10lbs
pct nolva 100/40/40/40
clomid 50/20/20/20

now looking to do the test p cycle, i havnt started
looking for lean gains

wanting to know if 8 weeks would be enough because im thinking shorter cycle so im shutdown for less time.
anyone done 8 weeks and how did you go

[edmen2]

in my experience recovery is much easier with prop! but look at one of the stickies above and checkout the slingshot method im pretty intrigued by it. it explains the benefits of the 8 wk cycle!

[Tyler694]

How are you going to get exactly 500mg prop / week?

How often and how many mg / pin?

I love prop though!!

[big_ron]

Thanks I will check out that sticky!
My test p is 100mg got it from a big bladder :-) of 200ml
I was thinking mon 1.5 wed 2ml and fri 1.5 again jst to get the 500 exactly?
Or I could do 450mg a week but I want a higher dose than my previous cycles to hopfully see better gains, or do u guys suggest to do 600mg or jst 100mg eod?

[big_ron]

Thanks I will check out that sticky!
My test p is 100mg got it from a big bladder :-) of 200ml
I was thinking mon 1.5 wed 2ml and fri 1.5 again jst to get the 500 exactly?
Or I could do 450mg a week but I want a higher dose than my previous cycles to hopfully see better gains, or do u guys suggest to do 600mg or jst 100mg eod?

[stevey_6t9]

your abit on the young side for AAS.

100mg eod would be more sufficient

[big_ron]

anyone else used prop for short cycles?

[nyspqr]

I'm looking into test prop as soon as I get my gear. I think 100mg a day will work wonders (which I plan to do), may leave you a little sore though.

[big_ron]

yeah im usually fine with pin pain, deca and test c and stana was no issue, but i know test p is abit more painfull, i was thinking doing 6 diff injection sites delts quads and glutes? 100mg eod will stretch out my cycle a bit longer than original cos ive ogt 40ml so 80days worth when i was just looking into a shorter 8week cycle makes it a bit over 10 weeks which might be better?

[Hard.On]

your abit on the young side for AAS.

100mg eod would be more sufficient

Come on guys,
Fight a better fight

when these morons are on here parroting advice etc.
jump in and express your thoughts.

Dont say your to young and then give advice

[big_ron]

Come on guys,
Fight a better fight

when these morons are on here parroting advice etc.
jump in and express your thoughts.

Dont say your to young and then give advice

you really cant say that much, you did a cycle at 23 im not much younger man, and dont they say your test starts coming down at 27? so your early aswell, so please if your going to be on my thread offer something instead of criticizing others peoples posts...thank you

[marcus300]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[marcus300]

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

[moneylessproblems]

how many mgs is in one cc of test prop?

[Tyler694]

Depends on the concentration.

Most are 100mg/ml, but I have seen 200mg/ml from UGLs before.

[Hard.On]

you really cant say that much, you did a cycle at 23 im not much younger man, and dont they say your test starts coming down at 27? so your early aswell, so please if your going to be on my thread offer something instead of criticizing others peoples posts...thank you

good research,
when I did my first cycle at 23, I did it completly wrong. If I had been smarter and listened to the advice of the Vets on this board, I would have waited a few more years and got bigger with a proper diet.
Also there are many arguments on when it is safe to start. Some other boards suggest 23.

your 21... Thats a big diff in the endocrine cycle.

Trust me... You have your whole life ahead of you to jump on the AAS train. There is no need to rush into it and jump on at 21. Also....
I wish I was 6'3 because you have way more potential then me to be HUGE!!!


These are just my thoughts. Ultimatly you can do what you want. You are an adult.

[big_ron]

thanks guys for your concern about me age and everything.
im not 6'3 im 6ft
i have not started this cycle it was only a plan, as i said im "considering" this cycle for my next, not sure when i am going to start it. and i believe everything you guys are saying, which is why ive been off for 9 months, i just got the opportunity to get some more and took it, so now im excited if you know what i mean? its hard to say no now, ive just gottta think it through hard.

but now can we focus on the actual questions?

[big_ron]

bump

[Focusmen]

youve already done a couple cycles so i would think your growth plates are shut so thats not an issue.

first thing i see is your bf% seems a little high. expecially at your age, which indicates you need to hit more diet research first.


but i def know what you mean abou the excitment factor. ive had my 2nd cycle gear in my safe for a few months now. sometimes ill randomly get it out and look at it. lol!!!

[_CrossroadS_]

I'd say your diet and training aren't that great if you are 15% BF at age 21...

[big_ron]

my diet and cardio in the past hasnt been spot on, but ive been lowering my body fat %, ive jst never cut after my other cycles.
the last month or so, ive been preparing for this, so ive been doing cardio 3 times a week, and my diet is lean

haha in this day and age your worried about my age and 15% lol i see fat kids everywhere i go no.......horrible

its just my body type and not being strict, i dont have the fastest metabolism, but im eating smaller meals more often and drinking water to help that.

thinking of the cycle has givin me alot more motivation lately and i love it

haha i look at my stuff alot 2

[big_ron]

i was also thinking instead of 1ml EOD of 100mg, to do 1.25ml EOD will make the cycle shorter, but witch may have more benefit? 1.25 EOD for 8 weeks or 1ml EOD for about 10??

[_CrossroadS_]

I'm not worried about you being 15%. And I could care less about fat kids everywhere you go. I simply stated my opinion that your diet and training are not that great if you are 21 and at that bf, which you confirmed with your first sentence. I'd get those things straightened out first, then come back here, and everyone will still tell you not to take drugs at your age. I have no opinion on that matter, i just know it's a waste if you don't have diet and training down pat first.

[big_ron]

okay thanks man, and as i have said before im just thinking about the cycle and thats one of things i wanna change before i do start, im trying to find out the best way to cycle this when i do start...as im fair excited and want to know everything

opinions on how this should be cycled (when i get everything in check)

[big_ron]

bumpy

[6ft5]

Prop is pretty fast acting with fewer side effect as far as bloating and easier to controll due to short esters. Sense you have alredy dun a couple smaller runs with the test. You want a higher dose, run 1.25ml eod and see what that does for you. Agree with the bf and diet suggestions above also. Prime up and bump cardio for a few weeks, get you cals tweeked. Have pct ready, time will fly buy. Maybe look into a hcg protocal, Along side or at the end.

[big_ron]

thanks man, i like when people actually give advice and not jst rant about crap! thanks alot