new at this

[juan400hp]

im new at this and ive been taking this for about 2 months now amd i dont see a big difference.. ive gained about 15lbs but not all lean muscle...i started taking 1ml/ 2X a week now im at 2ml/ 2X a week... i work out pretty hard i have my 3 protein shakes a day and eat good amount of carbs a day but only sleep about 5hrs..... any advice would be appreciated..

[Matt]

When we know what it is your taking then that would be a good start..

[cobra305]

What are your stats and what are you taking would be a good place to start.
age
ht
wt
bf%
cycle exp

[juan400hp]

When we know what it is your taking then that would be a good start..

oops sorry i forgot..im at work and cant exactly remember.. i believe is testosterone enthanyte 300 .oil based injection.....
im 6ft tall
i was 195lbs now im 210lbs

[cobra305]

how old are you and? How is gaining 15lbs in a month not a big differance? Have your lifts increased as well?

[Matt]

oops sorry i forgot..im at work and cant exactly remember.. i believe is testosterone enthanyte 300 from vlab.oil based injection.....
im 6ft tall
i was 195lbs now im 210lbs

Ok when your at home and have the compound with you then let use know exactly what it is.....

Also edit that lab name out.....

[juan400hp]

i started with 1cc twice a week till bottle finished.. about a month and a half. now im taking 2cc on the secound bottle which is almost over. makes any sence? im trying the same as my boy and he is huge.. but he has been doing it for about 2 cycles longer...ive noticed my chest getting a bit bigger but not much.

[Matt]

Good lord...

Full stats

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Years training
Cycle history
Planned pct
The name of the compoud you are injecting (exact name) ????

[juan400hp]

how old are you and? How is gaining 15lbs in a month not a big differance? Have your lifts increased as well?

im 24... and yea 15 lbs in about 2months but i dont pass that..yes my lifts went from benching 1/ 35lbs plate on each side to 2/ 45lbs plate on each side.(even tho i only lift it about 3 times.... but thats my point, i see the difference on lifts but not in body change..

[CMB]

LOL. you sir are the reason steroids have the name they do.

How old are you? What does your diet look like? How many mgs are you injecting on a week? Do you EVEN know what a PCT is?

[juan400hp]

Good lord...

Full stats

Age
Height
Weight
Bf%
Years training
Cycle history
Planned pct
The name of the compoud you are injecting (exact name) ????

sorry man, like i said im new at this.. so i dont knw my bf %....i been working out here and there before this but nothing serious..since i started taking this i work out mon, tuesd, wensd, fridays... as for cycle history that is all im taking..am i suppose to be taking other things besides the protein and carb intake?

[Matt]

BF% = Body fat percentage??

[cobra305]

My guess is your diet sucks your bf is 20 plus percent and oh yeah your diet sucks. aas are not a miracle drug that will make you look like a bodybuilder overnight. I am also sure of the fact that you took aas with about zero base to build on. Let this be a learning exp. do some research and learn what you are doing to your body. Do you have a pct planned out?

[juan400hp]

LOL. you sir are the reason steroids have the name they do.

How old are you? What does your diet look like? How many mgs are you injecting on a week? Do you EVEN know what a PCT is?

can u guys take it easy on me, i dont want people to knw im taking it so i dont have any1 to ask.. thats why i come to you guys..

for diet i have 3 protein shake a day.
a good breakfast off egg whites, tune, turkey breast, and a wheat baggel.
and the other 2 meals i slack off a bit. but no fast food..no i dont knw what pct is..sorry... and im taking 2ml on the needle.. which if im right when i searched it up online before 600mg = 1cc(ml)

[cobra305]

Three meals of food and 3 protein shakes is a SHITTY diet. go to the diet section and read

[cobra305]

Man you have set yourself up for failure, pct is post cycle therapy it is what starts up your bodies natural production of testosterone since aas shut it down. You need to head over to the pct section and read as well.

[juan400hp]

My guess is your diet sucks your bf is 20 plus percent and oh yeah your diet sucks. aas are not a miracle drug that will make you look like a bodybuilder overnight. I am also sure of the fact that you took aas with about zero base to build on. Let this be a learning exp. do some research and learn what you are doing to your body. Do you have a pct planned out?

well i do lots of sports so my body wasnt completly slim.. i had a decent regular athletic shape just not a good amount of mass...and yes u are 100% right about me doing my research but thats why i come to u guys who have experience. cause every site i go to contradict everything the previous site said..

[cobra305]

For future referance research before you begin putting sh1t into your body. Now go read and figure out what you are doing to yourself.

[juan400hp]

Man you have set yourself up for failure, pct is post cycle therapy it is what starts up your bodies natural production of testosterone since aas shut it down. You need to head over to the pct section and read as well.

ok i will do so. thank you...so i know now that my diet sucks but what about what im taking and the cc im injecting?

[cobra305]

If I where you I would be more concerned about pct, you do not even know the name of what you are inj. How am I supposed to know.

[juan400hp]

If I where you I would be more concerned about pct, you do not even know the name of what you are inj. How am I supposed to know.

ok so when i get home ill let u knw full exact name....

[AlphaMaleDawg]

how many mg's per CC are in each vial? is it 250mg?

[gixxerboy1]

ok i will do so. thank you...so i know now that my diet sucks but what about what im taking and the cc im injecting?

if your above post is correct and your taking test e 300mg. 2cc's x2 a week is way to much for you.

Goto the stickies above and read about pct. Get what you need stop your injections and start pct 2 weeks after your last shot.

Then goto the diet section and learn how to eat properly

[MuscleCommand]

Above post - agree all around.

That is too much for you, the way things sound from here. And w/o a proper diet and sleep, proper gains are a dream.

BTW, 15 pounds in that time frame is a damn good gain. Don't complain about that.

[thisbmine]

Can we help this kid?

Jaun - need you to go home and tell us exactly what you are injecting, how much, how often etc. How long youve been taking this, how long you plan to take it for etc.

You also need to get over to the PCT threads and read up on PCT. Then go to A-AR and order yourself some.

I must agree with the guys above though. Your diet needs major work. You dont grow in the gym - you grow by eating big and lots of rest. 5 hours a night doesnt cut it. I just woke up from a 12 hour sleep (woke up and ate some cheese and oats), had some breakfast, logged on here and now im going for a nap for an hour or two before gym. Not wanting to bag on you - youre just not exactly setting yourself up for success here. and if you dont check out PCT you may be really messing your body up.

[juan400hp]

Can we help this kid?

Jaun - need you to go home and tell us exactly what you are injecting, how much, how often etc. How long youve been taking this, how long you plan to take it for etc.

You also need to get over to the PCT threads and read up on PCT. Then go to A-AR and order yourself some.

I must agree with the guys above though. Your diet needs major work. You dont grow in the gym - you grow by eating big and lots of rest. 5 hours a night doesnt cut it. I just woke up from a 12 hour sleep (woke up and ate some cheese and oats), had some breakfast, logged on here and now im going for a nap for an hour or two before gym. Not wanting to bag on you - youre just not exactly setting yourself up for success here. and if you dont check out PCT you may be really messing your body up.

I read what it says... is testosterone enanthate 250 mg... so I fill up the guage till it hits 2ml.. was I right about ML equaling the same as CC ?

[bigchieftaco]

Yes, ML = CC.

Lets hope you don't grow some boobies

[gixxerboy1]

I read what it says... is testosterone enanthate 250 mg... so I fill up the guage till it hits 2ml.. was I right about ML equaling the same as CC ?

ml=cc

You are doing 2cc's twice a week or once a week?

[juan400hp]

Yes 2cc twice a week.....why would I grow boobie? Lol ...

Do you guys knw a better steroid I can take?

[Big]

you need to learn how to pct, get what you need, and stop and do a full pct.

[gixxerboy1]

Yes 2cc twice a week.....why would I grow boobie? Lol ...

Do you guys knw a better steroid I can take?

you are taking way to much. You are taking 1000mg a week. Most people doent ever go that high. And def not on a first cycle.

Seriously read the pct sticky up top and stop what you are doing. You dont know anything about what you are taking. And your diet sucks so its a waste anyway.

[thisbmine]

fck me.. 1000mg a week?

Dude.. who told you to do this? Thats super high.

Drop it back to 500mg a week (ie 2 shots of 1mg)

And get your PCT organised ASAP.

[Noles12]

As Big and many others have said, look up PCT stop your cycle and start a PCT. Then research before you just go putting stuff in your body again

[juan400hp]

fck me.. 1000mg a week?

Dude.. who told you to do this? Thats super high.

Drop it back to 500mg a week (ie 2 shots of 1mg)

And get your PCT organised ASAP.

Ok. Thanks. Well I already droped it to 1ml a week..ill work on everything else

[cobra305]

Go to ar-r and order yourself some nolva and clomid asap. It should be 1 ml twice a week or 3.5 days apart. ie mon morning and thurs evening for your inj. IMO you should order a pct and stop this cycle and get your sh1t together. Good luck

[amateur88]

holy sh!t man, you seriously need to do some research before you do yourself some damage, As the guys have already said! Stop now and do your pct! And listen to the advice here, many have said stop the cycle, so please dont think you know best and carry one. Many of these guys have been doing this for a long time so know what they are on about!

Was it a friends of yours that to start taking steroids? if so i think you need to have a word with him, you are completely unprepared!

[juan400hp]

Go to ar-r and order yourself some nolva and clomid asap. It should be 1 ml twice a week or 3.5 days apart. ie mon morning and thurs evening for your inj. IMO you should order a pct and stop this cycle and get your sh1t together. Good luck

i went on here and it says the pct for what im taking is 14 days after last injection.... but to be honest, im confused by all of this...ok thanks for the info but what is each one of those things for?

[cobra305]

read this
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

[AlphaGenetics]

i went on here and it says the pct for what im taking is 14 days after last injection.... but to be honest, im confused by all of this...ok thanks for the info but what is each one of those things for?

The clomid will help your natural test production start up again since its been shut down since you started injecting.
Tamox will help keep you from growing boobies while your body tries to get back to normal after you stop injecting.



This is definatly how steroids get a bad name. I wonder how many people this site has saved from killing themselves. Seriously.

[juan400hp]

The clomid will help your natural test production start up again since its been shut down since you started injecting.
Tamox will help keep you from growing boobies while your body tries to get back to normal after you stop injecting.



This is definatly how steroids get a bad name. I wonder how many people this site has saved from killing themselves. Seriously.

well thanks again.. . you guys have been very helpful... so cant i just continue a new cycle the right way from where i am at now???