can i check how developed my HPTA is?

[IMunchRoidz]

just wondering, how long till my endocrine system is developed cos i don't want to go into steroids till its fully developed.. I mean, people say between 21-25... but not everyone is the same right?

[CMB]

How old are you ?

[IMunchRoidz]

How old are you ?

19

i know its not totally developed yet, just wanna see how long i got to wait

[marcus300]

Wait till your around 24yrs old to start using steroids, no need to shut down your system when you have a nigh amount of natural testosterone and your still growing, steroids are not the answer food, once you learn how to eat to build lean tissue you will be in a far better position to use steroids.

[IMunchRoidz]

Wait till your around 24yrs old to start using steroids, no need to shut down your system when you have a nigh amount of natural testosterone and your still growing, steroids are not the answer food, once you learn how to eat to build lean tissue you will be in a far better position to use steroids.

i know, ive heard this all the time...

i want to do the test, u say 24, but not everyone's endocrine system is the same. i want to do something like a blood test to see how developed it is at the moment... maybe it will be fully developed at 23? i just want to know...

[marcus300]

i know, ive heard this all the time...

i want to do the test, u say 24, but not everyone's endocrine system is the same. i want to do something like a blood test to see how developed it is at the moment... maybe it will be fully developed at 23? i just want to know...

Steroids are not the answer at your age, you need to wait till you have fully stopped growing and you also need to build a base from yrs of hard training, to be honest with you normally the younger guys have no idea about foods/diets so if you master this area first you will be in a better position when the time comes.

Everyone is different and I am not sure if the is an exact test to see if your endocrine system as fully developed but there is a test you can take to see if your growth plates have stop developing but again you need to stop thinking there is a set time when you can use steroids, your yrs away from it so just carry on training and playing around with your diet, build a base.

[stevey_6t9]

i know, ive heard this all the time...

i want to do the test, u say 24, but not everyone's endocrine system is the same. i want to do something like a blood test to see how developed it is at the moment... maybe it will be fully developed at 23? i just want to know...

AGE__________MALE_______________AGE_______________ FEMALE

7-9__________< 9 ng/dL______________________________< 15 ng/dL
10-11________2-57 ng/dL_____________________________2-42 ng/dL
12-13________7-747 ng/dL____________________________6-64 ng/dL
14-15________33-585 ng/dL___________________________9-49 ng/dL
16-17________185-886 ng/dL__________________________8-63 ng/dL
18-39________300-1080 ng/dL______18-30______________11-59 ng/dL
40-59________350-890 ng/dL_______31-40______________11-56 ng/dL
> 60_________300-720 ng/dL_______41-51______________9-55 ng/dL
________________________________Postmenopause_____ _6-25 ng/dL

[marcus300]

AGE__________MALE_______________AGE_______________ FEMALE

7-9__________< 9 ng/dL______________________________< 15 ng/dL
10-11________2-57 ng/dL_____________________________2-42 ng/dL
12-13________7-747 ng/dL____________________________6-64 ng/dL
14-15________33-585 ng/dL___________________________9-49 ng/dL
16-17________185-886 ng/dL__________________________8-63 ng/dL
18-39________300-1080 ng/dL______18-30______________11-59 ng/dL
40-59________350-890 ng/dL_______31-40______________11-56 ng/dL
> 60_________300-720 ng/dL_______41-51______________9-55 ng/dL
________________________________Postmenopause_____ _6-25 ng/dL

What are you trying to prove with the above table?

[IMunchRoidz]

Steroids are not the answer at your age, you need to wait till you have fully stopped growing and you also need to build a base from yrs of hard training, to be honest with you normally the younger guys have no idea about foods/diets so if you master this area first you will be in a better position when the time comes.

Everyone is different and I am not sure if the is an exact test to see if your endocrine system as fully developed but there is a test you can take to see if your growth plates have stop developing but again you need to stop thinking there is a set time when you can use steroids, your yrs away from it so just carry on training and playing around with your diet, build a base.

yes, i know this, thats why im waiting... i'm just wondering if there is an exact test for my endocrine... i was planning to get my growth plates checked as well

please, ive heard this all before, i've been reading threads on this website for months

[marcus300]

yes, i know this, thats why im waiting... i'm just wondering if there is an exact test for my endocrine... i was planning to get my growth plates checked as well

please, ive heard this all before, i've been reading threads on this website for months

Thats the best bet, wait till your old enough.

[stevey_6t9]

What are you trying to prove with the above table?

Im assuming that maybe full HPTA development is associated with peak test total levels, from which you can see is given in the specific age groups.

[marcus300]

Im assuming that maybe full HPTA development is associated with peak test total levels, from which you can see is given in the specific age groups.

Have you seen the age groups which show the test levels? 18-39. Come on doesnt show us anything the age group is vast

[stevey_6t9]

Have you seen the age groups which show the test levels? 18-39. Come on doesnt show us anything the age group is vast

i know, there not very good variables, it seems they all go by 10 year lots.

heres a better one i think...


so i guess its safe to say mid twenties.

[IMunchRoidz]

i know, there not very good variables, it seems they all go by 10 year lots.

heres a better one i think...


so i guess its safe to say mid twenties.

it meanss that everyone develops at different times... anybody know if there is a test to see how much my endo sys has developed?

[marcus300]

it meanss that everyone develops at different times... anybody know if there is a test to see how much my endo sys has developed?

Not to my knowledge there isnt. They would test your hormones and see if you are in the average range for your age.

The body isn't fully developed until the avergae age of 24-25yrs old even though the main developement is up to 21 yrs old.

[bjohnson1968]

It seems to me you are just looking for an excuse to start earlier than you should

[IMunchRoidz]

It seems to me you are just looking for an excuse to start earlier than you should

im looking for the earliest time possible without damaging my hpta system.. what's wrong with that?

[marcus300]

im looking for the earliest time possible without damaging my hpta system.. what's wrong with that?

Wait till your whole body as stopped developing, 24-25yrs old

[IMunchRoidz]

Wait till your whole body as stopped developing, 24-25yrs old

it could be 23-24 for me... u never know lol, i wanna start as soon as it stops developing.. im impatient, at least im waiting as long as i can instead of the other guys jumping in at 18-19.

[marcus300]

it could be 23-24 for me... u never know lol, i wanna start as soon as it stops developing.. im impatient, at least im waiting as long as i can instead of the other guys jumping in at 18-19.

Your years away from using AAS, you will probably wont even still be training in 5 yrs time so why dont you just forget about steroids and concentrate on food and training until your around 24 yrs old and then reconsider.

No one here is going to tell you what age you would of stopped growing, in a few years go and have your growth plates tested and have a full blood panal done see what levels your hormones are at, the way your going on about this sounds like your 12yrs old so forget steroids and go and eat for at least 4 yrs, jesus whats wrong with you

[calgarian]

Wow...I dont know how many times u want Marcus to say the same thing.....to the OP he is not going to change his statement just because u r asking the same question with different wording . If u go through what he is saying its the same Learn to eat and train properly, dont use AAS till u r 24

[Swifto]

You dont need AAS at 19.

I used at 19 and have scars on my chest, back, shoulders from acne and a small case of gyno.

I then didnt cycle till recently (24).

[IMunchRoidz]

Wow...I dont know how many times u want Marcus to say the same thing.....to the OP he is not going to change his statement just because u r asking the same question with different wording . If u go through what he is saying its the same Learn to eat and train properly, dont use AAS till u r 24

i know i know... but how do people know the cut-off is 24?
people develop at different speeds

[Swifto]

You were recently banned at OLM and I'm very glad of it.

Your a total idiot looking for the answers you WANT to hear. But your not going to get them.

You have been told time and time again, NOT to cycle and use AAS. What dont you f*cking understand? Everything has been explained to you numerous times.

I'd like you to look at a new thread asking for my help today: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=434448

I get PM's everyday like this, or asking my help with PCT issues as their HPTA is f*cked.

Again, what dont you understand kid?! Its black and white.

You havent posted your diet or training program and have been told too. Your just another newbie looking for quick fix. If you decide to use AAS I gaurantee your going to run into problems and I will be the first shouting, "I TOLD YOU SO!". Your next thread in 3 months time will be asking what to do as you can get an erection.

[marcus300]

Fuking agreed 100% ^^^^^^^^

[Big]

truth^