Testosterone only....

[Jeffers]

Just wondering peoples thoughts on just taking Test on cycles or is it much better to try other compounds...
I have also tried tren but did not like the sweating and shortness of breath !!!

[Xtralarg]

I have test only cycles with excellent results....im talking 20lb gains!

Its down to the individual and how it works with them.

[marcus300]

Just wondering peoples thoughts on just taking Test on cycles or is it much better to try other compounds...
I have also tried tren but did not like the sweating and shortness of breath !!!

I would say Test is the most common compound used on its own and also used as a base within many stacks. I feel great on test and the results are remarkable, it builds muscle tissue and makes you feel great what more do you want!!

[MuscleCommand]

Test should be part of any cycle and using it alone is fine, too.

[Hazard]

Test only is great..... can make some real nice gains.....

~Haz~

[songdog]

test is great.I run just test often.You cant go wrong with test.

[ghettoboyd]

test is all ive ever run so far and love it.....

[stpete]

Can't go wrong w/ the best.

[SG2009]

test and arimidex will probably be the side-free cycle u can ever get IMHO

[bigrob01]

im recent recovered from a car wreck and im able to get back to liftin finally i seen that yal was talkin about sus500 that stuff was killer it worked great but im a one of those hard gainers so im needin some advice of what to do far as bulkin and test boost since sus500 is not on the market any more

[Ashop]

Just wondering peoples thoughts on just taking Test on cycles or is it much better to try other compounds...
I have also tried tren but did not like the sweating and shortness of breath !!!

For years thats all I used and I made outstanding gains.

[bigrob01]

well what the best test to go with cause most orals are bs from what i see

[JScondition]

well what the best test to go with cause most orals are bs from what i see

You will hear, "test is test." And that is correct. They will all work as test... If you don't want to pin ed or eod then the longer ester tests will do just fine. And not all orals are bs as long as you run them with TEST!!!!

Moral of the story Test reigns supreme.

[bigrob01]

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[lovbyts]

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Then you have not been looking much.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Big rob - Do you eat?
I thought I was a hard gainer and was!!!
Though, its pretty hard to gain when you eat 3 meals a day.
I was like 45kgs (5'6) when I started lifting 10 yrs ago. 2 years in and I bulked up to a HUGE 49kgs *flex* I was lifting big, sleeping big.... but figured 3 meals a day and protein shakes would do the job.
Once I upped my meals (and man, its f'ing hard.. I was throwing up, feeling sick constantly for around 3+ months - but if you throw up you have room for more food!!!!) to 6 a day (and proper meals), plus snacks, and protein shakes, within 8 years I was up to 85kgs.
Ive just started my first course and am up to 95 (6wks in).
Youre not a hardgainer. You just have a fast metabolism and you need to eat the right foods at the right times and eat CONSTANTLY.
Im not sure what your goals are but you should visit a supermarket. Buy a BIG slow cooker, cook up 4 times recommended meals and then clip seal them and freeze them. Fill your car with tuna cans and beef jerky.
Youre not a hardgainer, youre just not a hard eater. There is a difference (notice some BIG ass azns? Genetically theyre not meant to be big. But they dont just eat rice n noodles!)

[*RAGE*]

well i cant find anywhere to get inj test

And with a statement like this, you will likely be scammed by someone on this board. FYI, when you can get pm's about gear dont respond...

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Research more, between eating.
Test E is best for 2 x a week injections.
Test Prop is just as good, but you need to inj. eod.

We won't provide you with sources etc or tell you how to use your gear without you supplying your proper stats. We are here to help, just sounds a little like youre fishing which is against the rules.

[breathemetal]

When i decide to run my 1st cycle it will be straight/strict test, nothing else. Id rather start simple and work my way up the ladder in time.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

And with a statement like this, you will likely be scammed by someone on this board. FYI, when you can get pm's about gear dont respond...

Oh F you man! The test I was going to sell him was AWESOME. Just because it comes in Olive Oil cans and in 5gallons for 100 bucks you get all skeptical. I even have a sticker saying "100% real legit test e or p" on it :/

Guess I wont bother trying to sell him my virgin olive oil for newbies.... :/

[*RAGE*]

Oh F you man! The test I was going to sell him was AWESOME. Just because it comes in Olive Oil cans and in 5gallons for 100 bucks you get all skeptical. I even have a sticker saying "100% real legit test e or p" on it :/

Guess I wont bother trying to sell him my virgin olive oil for newbies.... :/

Thank you sir, I needed a good laugh tonight.....

[bigrob01]

im not that dumb i eat like 6 full meals a day and most site i have been to are scams from what i see

[bigrob01]

i would know the difference i was on cyp it works good

[*RAGE*]

im not that dumb i eat like 6 full meals a day and most site i have been to are scams from what i see

No one is calling you out bro, just a well known fact here!!!

if that is you in the photo add two more meals and call me in the morning lol

JK...sounds like you got a good head on your shoulders...

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

On a more serious note, where did you get an idea that just test wouldnt be a great idea?

Its one compound so you know how it works with your body. Most future stacks would involve them and people get BRILLIANT results from test.

I understand people have questions concerns etc but Im starting to get sick of reading dumb questions. I read this site for over a year to learn all i could before I jumped on the roid bandwagon. I know some people just go for it and need help with urgent problems but seriously, can we make the search button take up 1/2 the screen?
Or just if someone "thinks" they have an infection have the computer generate an automatic reply of "GO TO A DOCTOR, WE ARE DRUG USERS, IF YOU HAVE TO ASK YOU SHOULD PROBABLY ALREADY BE THERE" or something?
*shrug* Im very keen to help others and love the help/advice I get from this site but it seems 1/2 the posts are from people with limited posts, recently joined and have done no actual research.
Also people asking for advice on their 1st cycle also seem to be time wasters.
Sorry to be harsh and this may not be the forum for it, but Im here to learn and give advice to those who have done SOME homework ... but lately it seems to just be homos who dont have diet in check, have trained on and off for a few months, know NOTHING about gear or sides... have bought what is available and expect us to help them like we're some charity.
Sorry for the rant but Im just noticing the last 3 months this site is just going down with newbs repeating questions that have been answered to exhaustion.

[bigrob01]

yeah those pics are from last month but before the car wreck i weighted 235 and was swoll as heck and im tryin to get back there but that wreck knocked me down to 135 im 150 now

[bigrob01]

well i use to be a member but i for got my loggin name and password

[*RAGE*]

yeah those pics are from last month but before the car wreck i weighted 235 and was swoll as heck and im tryin to get back there but that wreck knocked me down to 135 im 150 now

Sorry to hear that bro, we are here to help check out the diet and workout section and once you get back on track you will have all the answers for the gear....and if not we are here to help bro

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Dude sorry if that came off as harsh - was more directed to the Original Poster. As you can tell just Im trying to help people, just lost 2 parents in a tragic accident, work hard and I call it how i see it these days. Some people think im a c***. Others think im direct and like it.
But if you are a hard gainer and eating that much check out diet section. That way you can eat the appropriate meals at certain times when your body really needs them.

[bigrob01]

but i feel ya the younger cats these days arent that smart but i have been out of shape and havent worked out in 2 years cause the car wreck broke my back so yeah im a lil rusty and there are so many new product i dont know what to go with other than to go to the doc

[bigrob01]

well i eat lots of carbs and i never go with out eating meat and drinkin a protein shake before and after workouts

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Sorry about the accident man.
Didnt mean to criticize. Just read so many posts (and hear clients, and wife) go on about how shit doesnt work and cant be fixed, and theyre just simply not taking the time out to research or experiment. Theyre just like "this is wrong, you fix it for me" (and on this site not only do i not get paid, people abuse you if you tell them how steroids may harm them).

If youve been to that weight before you'll get there again. Good luck with that. If you cant get sust 500, why not go for 250? Thats pretty common.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

well i eat lots of carbs and i never go with out eating meat and drinkin a protein shake before and after workouts

Check out the diet section. I mean i *thought* I ate a lot..
but for example its 12pm in australia right now. Ive already had 2 bowls of oats, a 185g can of tuna, 1/4 of a chicken, 2 protein shakes and ive snacked on cold meats (maybe 200g). Been up since 6 and am going to have some brown rice, salmon steak, 3 cups of vegies for lunch in 20 minutes.

I used to think I ate "big". But again dude youve been there so Im not knocking your diet. Perhaps just, tweak it a little to provide your body with what it needs WHEN it needs it.

And again, Good luck.

PS (Nice work on high jacking this thread, I bet the OP is pissed as )

[bigrob01]

cause they took sus500 off the market and as far as test my leaves are really low cause i was juicin before edited

[bigrob01]

lol sorry

[bigrob01]

but i have changed my deits a few times and m body has to have alot of protein but im bumbed for real i have listened to everyone i know how yal feel everyone use to turn to me for advice cause i was huge and ripper like no other

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Did you do a PCT? (Post Cycle Therapy) If you didnt, start a thread explaining your situation etc cause depending when you last injected it *may* not be too late to jump on a PCT.

Off the market? Were you getting it legally via a script? Ive still heard people using sust 500... but never seen, touched or bought it so cant confirm.
Dont know much about sust 500.. only 250. Is it still 1ml per amp? How often were you injecting and how much?
Personally im just on sust 250 right now... and I do 1mg twice a week.. (1mg Mon, 1 mg Thurs).
You do need your own sources for the injectable stuff to my knowledge. Personally not a fan of orals (never tried them, but i hear they f up your liver) and depending where you live theyre probably illegal. But if you ask friends (like with all drugs) you can probably find a source.

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Since im not on a cutting diet and figure since im naturally thin, I can eat as much as I want when i want. If I get a gut i run my dog.
They say 4000 calories on some posts here but I smash that since Im a "hard gainer" and the only weight I put on is in the gut - but cardio fixes that right up.

[bigrob01]

i was doin 1cc every other day and yeah sus500 is really harsh on your liver and as far as friends i dont have any they are all peices of s*** they all turned their backs on me when i really needed help

[ThatGuyYeahHim]

Whoa... thats a lot of sus.
Damn man... not sure what to say.
I actually heard sus was not harsh on the liver, but that was 250 (not sure how diff 500 would be), compared to other tests.
Where do you live? Move to thailand or something. I figure after selling my company my kids can have a heroin problem and still do alright! Its so cheap there!
But short of that man Id research like all hell, try some mail stuff etc. Dont suppose you had a script due to low test (think i read this wrong)? Otherwise youd still be juicing it up.
If youre in the states or whatever id suggest you find local drivable country, do a road trip and stock up. Otherwise get it posted. I feel for you, but if there is a means theres a way.