Please critique my cycle/ PCT plans...

[MercuryEvo]

26 years old
first cycle
15% BF (guestimate)
174 lbs
5'10"

CYCLE: weeks 1-10
Test E, (750mg weekly), weeks 1-10
HGH Frag 177-191, 2IU's a day weeks 2 until I dont want to buy it anymore, lol
HCG, 500iu's a week, weeks 4-12
Aromasin, 12.5mg EOD, weeks 4-11

PCT: weeks 12-16
Nolvadex, 40mgED week 12, 20mgED, weeks 13-16
2g of Vitamin C daily


Please critique my end dates if I have them wrong. And do I need Nolvadex AND Clomid? If they both do the same thing, why take both? Lastly, any suggestions on cycle term? I couldn't decide between 10 and 14 so I went with 12. Thanks in advance!!!

[redz]

That dose is too low, I doubt you will need to take aromasin on cycle with only 250mg per week don`t forget the ester weight attatched to enanthate means you are not really getting 250mg of test more like 150-175 which is not that high. I would suggest doubling the dose. I would also suggest you keep both the clomid and nolva for pct.

[Knockout_Power]

I think he meant 2 shots of 250 thats what the 2 in brackets was. Other wise looks good. Dont use the Aromasin unless you see estro sides coming on. Could hinder gains a bit.

[Bio-Active]

26 years old
first cycle
14% BF
192 lbs
5'10"

CYCLE: weeks 1-12
Test E, (2) 250mg's a week, weeks 1-12
HCG, (2) 250iu's a week, weeks 4-14
Aromasin, 25mg daily, weeks 4-12

PCT: weeks 14-18
Nolvadex, 40mgED week 14, 20mgED, weeks 15-18
Clomid, 70mgED week 14, 35gED, weeks 15-18


Please critique my end dates if I have them wrong. And do I need Nolvadex AND Clomid? If they both do the same thing, why take both? Lastly, any suggestions on cycle term? I couldn't decide between 10 and 14 so I went with 12. Thanks in advance!!!

You will probably need the Aromasin when you begin the HCG otherwise only use it if symptoms of gyno flare up.

[MercuryEvo]

well alot of people have been saying to use an AI during my cycle no matter what, and that the HCG could cause gyno issues. I'd rather be safe then sorry and even possibly use a slightly smaller amount of aromasin instead of none at all. From what I hear, the HCG will cause it.

[MercuryEvo]

That dose is too low, I doubt you will need to take aromasin on cycle with only 250mg per week don`t forget the ester weight attatched to enanthate means you are not really getting 250mg of test more like 150-175 which is not that high. I would suggest doubling the dose. I would also suggest you keep both the clomid and nolva for pct.

Yea, its (2) 250's a week, totalling 500mg. I wouldnt just do 250, seems like a waste.

[MercuryEvo]

edited for a 10 week cycle, anyone see any issues?

[G4R]

What are your goals for this cycle?
What cycles have you run prior? Or is this your first?

[panntastic]

that amount of hcg wont cause gyno problems and from my understanding hcg creates type 2 estrogen and aromasin wont touch that. i learnt all this from pharm doc cyrus he and swifto really no there stuff on hcg.

[MercuryEvo]

Bump up, got busy with other stuff and never did this. I'm down 20 more lbs so my BF is lower as well. This is my first cycle and I just pulled the trigger on getting everything. Looking to start end of this week. I was going to do a slingshot cycle but I decided against it for my first. I want to get comfortable with everything first. I'm still tossing up getting Clomid or not. I hear it causes depression? Any suggestions?

Sorry for bringing this back from the dead, I just saw no need to create another thread. LMK guys!!

[MercuryEvo]

added HGH Frag 177-191

bump up for suggestions?

[dsldsl1980]

750 is higher than you need, I saw great gains on my first at 500 a week. As far as clomid you probably will not need it as long as you stay at 500 and use HCG on cycle.

[MercuryEvo]

I think I'm gonna go with 500mg the first week or 2, then MAYBE go to 750. Or just stick with 500 and maybe run 12-14 weeks. I can't really decide at the moment.