Switch to ALL TREN cycle?

[Skyler]

Ok, I am not going to over complicate this by going into a bunch of detail. I am currently doing 300mg Trenabol Depot a week, with 550mg of Andropen 275 (test blend). It is time for me to buy some more stuff, and I was thinking of buying quite a bit more tren, but very little test. I want to slowly lower the doses of test until I am not using it at all anymore, and be on an all tren cycle.

Now, I know about the whole "d*ck won't work" thing, I am aware of that, and all i will say is that the broke d*ick isn't going to bother me for a little while. My main reason for wanting to try all tren is because I want the strength and density I have been gaining from the tren, but I want to lean out a bit more, and appear more dry/hard.
I have read about others that have done this, and said they got great results, with the only complaint really being that their d*cks don't work. Which I don't care about.
Based on the research I have done so far, I have not found any major problems that leap out at me. I wanted to ask for opinions though because there may be something I am still unaware of.
Are there other complications that I may not have read about? Will it somehow make PCT different? Will I see more problems (other than broke d*ck) than its worth?
Just trying to weigh the pros and cons.
Any advice is appreciated, and i won't be offended if someone is harsh in their response, I am a big boy, I can handle it.
Just wanted some input, thanks.

[Necrosaro]

Don't understand why not having that little bit of test in the system as well? Why not?

[Skyler]

I've just read that without the test, I will be able to lean out more, and become harder. I have heard that though test is good to match up with EVERYTHING, that I am only going to see (visual appearance, not strength) limited tren effects if i am also running test.

[Necrosaro]

Where did you read this? I would be worried about having no pecker. Having no test in the system would be terrible for it for a very long time. A little big of test is going to help you out a ton man. You can still get lean on test.

[c-Z]

Prop tren mast is one of the best cutting cycles i have seen. i dont see where you think test is no good for cutting? Its all about your diet. I certainly wouldn't risk shutting my boys down on tren only with no test. Sex comes first in my book.

[VWbug66]

dude unless you plan on not getting any *****, or playin in the bed with women, then go right on ahead.. but everything will go to shit, testosterone is responsible for the male characteristics- EVERYTHING- with out it, you'll be like a bitch crazed women on her rag

[big_ron]

Now, I know about the whole "d*ck won't work" thing, I am aware of that, and all i will say is that the broke d*ick isn't going to bother me for a little while.

How can you not care about your man hood? getting harder and dryer aint worth not being able to use ur thing, imagine how depressed your gunna be?

[Big]

there is no reason not to run at least a trt dose of test, your goal is certainly possible with test in the equation.

[AlphaGenetics]

I did a tren only cycle and it was a bad mistake. Couldnt get an quality erection for a year after. Shit is so hard to recover from. I did make big muscle gains but wasnt worth it. JMO

[Skyler]

Thanks for all the input. I guess I didn't realize it would keep my junk from working for a long period of time (AlphaGenetics said he didn't work right for a year!?), and after i posted this I called a buddy to ask him about it. He said what a few of you have also confirmed, that it won't just be a broke d*ck problem, it will also mean I will run into nipple problems, and I will be super emotional like a woman. Now all that PLUS broke d*ck definately isn't worth it.

[VWbug66]

whew....glad you realize!!! just run a trt dose of test as big said

[Chev]

Why would you want to be on a cycle and not banging someone? ...or something. lol

Run a TRT dose at least.

[Bonaparte]

100mg/week test E would work fine to replace your natural test.
Add in some Prami or Caber to lower prolactin and keep an AI on hand in case you somehow get estrogen or progesterone issues.

[Lean1038]

100mg/week test E would work fine to replace your natural test.
Add in some Prami or Caber to lower prolactin and keep an AI on hand in case you somehow get estrogen or progesterone issues.

Agreed. I'm running 150mg of Test E weekly with Tren E and everything's great. No sides, strength, vascularity, hardness, and aggression are way up!

PS - People overdose Tren so much. I'm only running 160mg weekly and it's plenty IME. I'm adding 600mg of Masteron E next week!

[Atomini]

For those of you who have had extended libido and erection problems after (long after) your tren (or deca) cycle, the answer to that is: CABERGOLINE.

I personally never run a tren cycle without using Cabergoline to block progesterone/prolactin side effects. I spoke with one steroid using vet about it, and he told me he thinks its a waste of money, because something like less than 10% of the tren-using population experiences progesterone-related gyno or libido-reducing side effects. His reasoning IS valid, but I PERSONALLY would not want to be the one to potentially luck out (or rather UNluck out) and end up with lactating gyno or a nonfunctional libido or penis.

So personally I choose to go the extra length and include cabergoline in any 19-nor cycle (such as tren or deca). I dont mind spending the extra money on the assurance that my dick will be fine during and after my tren cycle. One should still always run test on a tren or deca cycle though.

For those of you having problems loooong after your cycle is over, try cabergoline, it may fix the problem!

[got fina?]

Well ill answer this question for ya since i ran Tren and Win for 5 months with no Test.
Fina 50mg/eod and Win 50mg/eod.

This combo got me ripped to bits. I looked like i was starving actually and could see veins in my stomach. I wouldnt run this again though. It reall shut me down bad. I could still get hard, but had no desire to do so.

Even though Tren/Win gave me good results, I blame it on the diet i ran and would ask if theres not much more you could fix of that??

[Bonaparte]

For those of you who have had extended libido and erection problems after (long after) your tren (or deca) cycle, the answer to that is: CABERGOLINE.

I personally never run a tren cycle without using Cabergoline to block progesterone/prolactin side effects. I spoke with one steroid using vet about it, and he told me he thinks its a waste of money, because something like less than 10% of the tren-using population experiences progesterone-related gyno or libido-reducing side effects. His reasoning IS valid, but I PERSONALLY would not want to be the one to potentially luck out (or rather UNluck out) and end up with lactating gyno or a nonfunctional libido or penis.

So personally I choose to go the extra length and include cabergoline in any 19-nor cycle (such as tren or deca). I dont mind spending the extra money on the assurance that my dick will be fine during and after my tren cycle. One should still always run test on a tren or deca cycle though.

For those of you having problems loooong after your cycle is over, try cabergoline, it may fix the problem!

Dopamine agonists (caber/prami) only lower prolactin.
Only by lowering estrogen can you lower progesterone.

[Atomini]

Dopamine agonists (caber/prami) only lower prolactin.
Only by lowering estrogen can you lower progesterone.

But 19-nors such as deca and tren ARE progestins and act as such in the human body. Progestins will trigger increases prolactin.

You could lower extrogen to ZERO % in your body, but as long as you have a lot of tren and/or deca in yourself, you will still get rising prolactin levels.

That's where cabergoline comes in.

[gymnerd]

Here, run 200mg test, whatever tren you want and run 25mg of aromasin ED you be dry as a bone!! That's the more intelligent thing to do.

[Bonaparte]

But 19-nors such as deca and tren ARE progestins and act as such in the human body. Progestins will trigger increases prolactin.

You could lower extrogen to ZERO % in your body, but as long as you have a lot of tren and/or deca in yourself, you will still get rising prolactin levels.

That's where cabergoline comes in.

I didn't say otherwise.