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    Steroids for training camp!!!!

    Hi all, i have been kickboxing for the last 2 years and im looking to make a transition to mma, i have signed myself in for a 3 month stint in a ''fight camp'' where i am hoping to train at least 5 days a week and on some of those days, train early morning and again in the evening. The training regime per week will be as follows, weightlifting x2, strenght conditioning(circuit training) x3 and sparring/technique training x3 alongside with 20min runs 4 times a week and stretching/yoga every morning. As you can see this is quiete alot and i risk overtraining. As i am going to this camp to learn as much as possible and get my moneys worth(it aint cheap) i was thinking of taking steroids to help prevent overtraining and possibly help prevent injury. I fully understand proper diet, supplementation and rest,but steroids is somewhat new to me, thats why i am here. I have done some research and seen that a dbol, deca, nolvadex is a good novice stack, but is this primarily for bulking?? I am also interested in EQ because because it helps with cardio and is rather good for joint repair due to collagen synthasis??? I kinda want to avoid some of the heavier AAS because of my inexperience and i aint gonna look to tough at a fight camp with a pair of titties .I have also read that deca and EQ causes limp dick and that not gonna be good for the missus ha, is this true??? So if any here could share there knowledge and experience with me, what they think would be the best and what side effects i should expect it would be greatly appreciated. Im currently, 75kg, Height 5' 11, below average bodyfat,age 25..
    Also i am not competing anythime soon, so testing is not an issue for the moment or trying to make weight!!
    Thanks in advance, Dotzer!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotzer View Post
    I have done some research and seen that a dbol, deca, nolvadex is a good novice stack!!!
    Actually, thats one of the dumbest stacks Ive heard in a while... but hey, who likes having their dick work properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    Actually, thats one of the dumbest stacks Ive heard in a while... but hey, who likes having their dick work properly.
    Wow how helpfull??? As i said iv no experience with steroids, im only goin by what i read on the internet.
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    If I were you I would run 600 mg test cyp or 500 mg sust or test enth. and 500 mg primobolan. typically I say primo is the most overrated aas out there, but I also believe the only time to run primo is in a calorie reduction mode or in your instance a calorie depleted state due to extensive training. couple that with 50 or 100 mg of proviron and 10 mg nolva a day and you will have little if any estro issues. and on the plus side you can obtain all these substances in human grade preparation. and it is probably one of the safest cycles out there. unless you have male pattern baldness or the tendancy for it- primo can ruin hair lines. primo can also break the bank.

    500 mg/wk of sust & 100 mg of proviron/day &10 of nolva would likely be a safe, moderately effective and simple first cycle. maybe just add primo if it is cost effective for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    Actually, thats one of the dumbest stacks Ive heard in a while... but hey, who likes having their dick work properly.
    where did he come up with this ha. bro just eat more and lots of protein, bcaa's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    where did he come up with this ha. bro just eat more and lots of protein, bcaa's.
    "THE FIRST RULE ABOUT FIGHT CLUB IS...."

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    his name was robert paulson

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    where did he come up with this ha. bro just eat more and lots of protein, bcaa's.
    I cant post a link because its a website that sells steroids and ill get in a bit of trouble ere, but thats what they claim. They are a british supplier and the only place i can get quality products. Im Irish, personal use of steroids here is legal, but still very hard come by..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndriodLee View Post
    "THE FIRST RULE ABOUT FIGHT CLUB IS...."
    2grms of protein per pound of weight,bcaa supp,glutamine,multi vit,joint supp, flax/fish oil and an excellent varied diet. I have that one in the bag

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    what weight is 75kg in pounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    If I were you I would run 600 mg test cyp or 500 mg sust or test enth. and 500 mg primobolan. typically I say primo is the most overrated aas out there, but I also believe the only time to run primo is in a calorie reduction mode or in your instance a calorie depleted state due to extensive training. couple that with 50 or 100 mg of proviron and 10 mg nolva a day and you will have little if any estro issues. and on the plus side you can obtain all these substances in human grade preparation. and it is probably one of the safest cycles out there. unless you have male pattern baldness or the tendancy for it- primo can ruin hair lines. primo can also break the bank.

    500 mg/wk of sust & 100 mg of proviron/day &10 of nolva would likely be a safe, moderately effective and simple first cycle. maybe just add primo if it is cost effective for you.
    Im presuming were talking a 12 week cycle.Would 300-400mg test enth be innsufficent??? Also do i use the primo for the full cycle or just at the start/end??? I think i could fit it into the budget, does 1x100mg amp about $20 sound right???thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    what weight is 75kg in pounds
    Bout 160lb

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    what weight is 75kg in pounds
    x2.204=165lbs

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    ha you need to eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjpennnn View Post
    ha you need to eat.
    Im not looking for size or cosmetics, explosive strenght, conditioning and stamina are my goals and im looking for something that will help me over an intense training period!!! Being big and strong isnt always an advantage in fighting.Mariusz Pudzianowski embarressed himself when he fought Tim Sylvia, the strong man was no match!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotzer View Post
    Im presuming were talking a 12 week cycle.Would 300-400mg test enth be innsufficent??? Also do i use the primo for the full cycle or just at the start/end??? I think i could fit it into the budget, does 1x100mg amp about $20 sound right???thanks
    400 cyp or 500 sust is where I would start for a first cycle. you dont want to be worried about estro control for your first cycle, wade into the water- no diving allowed.

    20 bones for an amp is high but not way out of line. I think I get mine for 13 I think. and underground lab primo is commonly faked so be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotzer View Post
    Im not looking for size or cosmetics, explosive strenght, conditioning and stamina are my goals and im looking for something that will help me over an intense training period!!! Being big and strong isnt always an advantage in fighting.Mariusz Pudzianowski embarressed himself when he fought Tim Sylvia, the strong man was no match!!!
    yeah I did not see that comming

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    yeah I did not see that comming
    Thats what most the girls who do scenes with Mandingo say

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    Dotzer send me a pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotto333 View Post
    Dotzer send me a pm
    he can't pm, why not advise him here so we can all benefit from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    he can't pm, why not advise him here so we can all benefit from it?
    This ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieseljimmy View Post
    yeah I did not see that comming
    You propably dont want to get any excess bloat, sore joints or get too easilly pumped up + youre new to subject so instucting huge amounts of test etc. must be joke in your case.

    Try to do some research if you need AAS at and if you decide so stick with someting not too dramatic which helps you to recover faster not adding much mass in any form nor make you disturbed. And then again just regular supplements to give what your body needs during intense training which eventually leads to the qualities you're excepting to get.

    Good luck

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