first cycle help!!

[campbell11]

hey im new to this stuff and im thinking bout taking my first cycle but not sure wat to take. im just under 6ft i weigh 82 kgs ive been training for bout 2 years but have hit a wall i try to lift heavier but cant and tried heaps of sups this is a list of wat i can get anyone got any cycle ideas?
ghrp-6 peptide
dhea
dbol
deca
test enanthate
propionate
trenbolone acetate
primabolin
clenbuterol powder
clenbuterol gel
stanazol (winstrol)
ppl i been talking to says for my first cycle only do dbol for 6 weeks start off on 10mg a day for the first week then 15mg for the second n third then 20 mg for the next three and that i wont need any novadex or arimidex?? but other ppl have told me that its a shit cycle and that i should stack it

[campbell11]

Come on where's the help????

[Ernst]

Seems like you could stand to gain a bit more before cycling. We all sort of hit a "wall" or "plateau" sometimes, and it can be damn frustrating.

How old are you? Bodyfat? What does your diet and training split look like, just to give us an idea?

[campbell11]

I'm pretty lean I don't know my % how do u find out I got a six PAC n look kind of ripped but still skinny if u know wat I mean my mate told me to try eat heaps of carbs n double my body weight in protine so mainly eating lots of chicken, stakes n potatos and I train 6 days a week in the morning and one of them just a cardio day but my mate also said to stop cardio when on it

[campbell11]

Oh and I'm 21

[Ernst]

That naturally lean build is a blessing and a curse. I know because I have it too. Watching buddies suffer through cutting diets I'll never have to I've decided it's really not so terrible. The term "hardgainer" is just that-- it's hard to gain. Doesn't mean you can't. You need to figure out exactly how many calories you are getting in vs. what you need and check your split. Often it seems diet is the real issue for those who complain about not being able to gain. As far as the supps, probably 99% of them are just a waste of money. Also, I don't know what muscles you're working and when when you say 6 days a week. I know when I began I was given lots of poor advice in that area. I personally do a 3 day split, working each muscle group once weekly, and zero cardio (unless you count sex). I have enough trouble adding and maintaining weight without burning any excess energy. A lot of guys on here seem to favor a 4 or 5 day split, again training each muscle group once weekly. There is great info in the stickies above each subforum. I suggest starting with diet and then following with the workout forum. Changing things up a bit and refining your diet may help you break through this slump and allow you to continue to build on your goals. I'm not saying AAS isn't for you, just make sure everything is in line (and... age?) before you consider it. If things aren't up to snuff you will not get the positive and lasting results you are looking for, juice or no. If you have any questions just post them up.

Welcome, and good luck!

(You never answered how old you were... no one with half a brain will advise a youngster to juice)

[campbell11]

Ahk thanks for ur help yer the more I read the more I'm thinking bout holding off for a while cheers

[HawaiianPride.]

Hold off a little while longer. But don't hesitate to take this time to dedicate how compounds work, what compounds work best together, ancillaries, and how to properly deal with side effects.