Experimenting with a pyramid!!

[brnxbomers]

hey guys im going to try a pyramid...i have read a lot of litrature and seems like different things work for different people. I have run consistant dosages all throughout i jus wanna see how it works for me. I recently finished an 8 week cycle to test out my gear

Ht: 5'7
Age: 26
Im currently 170lbs
Bf: 12 % tops

The cycle was as follows:
wk 1-4 deca 300 test 400
wk 4-8 deca 400 test 500
wk 9 test 500
wk 10 Nolva/Clomid PCT

This cycle yielded just about 14 lbs. I had a great diet and i had to eat constantly. so i guess my stuff is legit.

Anyway my goal is to gain 25 lbs SOLID on the next one...so ill prolly have to put on 30 lbs...and my cycle is going to be much stronger

Starting at test 250 and deca 200
peaking all the way up to test 1000mgs and deca at 600 mgs
Im gonna see how im doin at this point...after this point i mite just stay at this dose and no tapering...we'll see

Anyway based on my last cycle and this gear. how much would u predict i would put on keeping the diet fact good ofcourse...i was thinking of adding DBOL @30 mgs/day for weeks 1-4. Do u think i need it?

or

deca/ test will more than suffice? guess more direct question is how much more would DBOL add weight wise???

[HawaiianPride.]

So, you gained 14lbs off your last cycle, meaning you started it at only 166lbs. I'm willing to bet you could have achieved this without the drugs.

What is your cycle history? Curious as to why your running nearly 2 grams of drugs at 170lbs. That's pretty hefty.

With my experience in pyramiding, it fluctuated my BP so bad I literally had to stop the cycle and PCT. I never suggest pyramids.

[Big]

hey guys im going to try a pyramid...i have read a lot of litrature and seems like different things work for different people. I have run consistant dosages all throughout i jus wanna see how it works for me. I recently finished an 8 week cycle to test out my gear

Ht: 5'7
Age: 26
Im currently 170lbs
Bf: 12 % tops

The cycle was as follows:
wk 1-4 deca 300 test 400
wk 4-8 deca 400 test 500
wk 9 test 500
wk 10 Nolva/Clomid PCT

This cycle yielded just about 14 lbs. I had a great diet and i had to eat constantly. so i guess my stuff is legit.

Anyway my goal is to gain 25 lbs SOLID on the next one...so ill prolly have to put on 30 lbs...and my cycle is going to be much stronger

Starting at test 250 and deca 200
peaking all the way up to test 1000mgs and deca at 600 mgs
Im gonna see how im doin at this point...after this point i mite just stay at this dose and no tapering...we'll see

Anyway based on my last cycle and this gear. how much would u predict i would put on keeping the diet fact good ofcourse...i was thinking of adding DBOL @30 mgs/day for weeks 1-4. Do u think i need it?

or

deca/ test will more than suffice? guess more direct question is how much more would DBOL add weight wise???

in just about every thread you post, people tell you what they would you suggest, then you disagree and tell them why they are wrong. why keep posting?

[HawaiianPride.]

I was merely giving him personal experiences on the matter. It had my BP flying all over the place, and I would NOT want that happening to him. I want his cycle to benefit him, not the opposite.

But it's his body chemistry, not mine, and pyramiding might have no ill side effects.

Brn, give it a go, and give us your results. Monitor your BP carefully and take necessary precautions when necessary. Good luck on your next cycle bro.

[Big]

I added the quote so you wouldn't think I was responding to you HP. I'm glad you advised, and I hope he listens.

[HawaiianPride.]

Oh damn, I thought you were referring to me. My fault..

[Big]

Oh damn, I thought you were referring to me. My fault..

not at all, my bad for not adding the quote. I haven't seen you give anything but solid advice since you've been here, we need more guys like you. check some of the OP's threads and you'll see what I mean
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=432077

[Big]

I especially like post 11 in this thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=428866

lol wow defensive are we? I appreciate the advice but to be honest pyramidding is prolly the worst way to cycle...they are know to cause unstable blood level whichs would aggrivate and lead to more side effects

as far as my cycle is concern long esters dont kick in till 4 weeks so i decided to go lower on the dosage but after week 4 i upped it. PYRAMMIDDING IS THE WORST WAY TO CYCLE. Check on it

[HawaiianPride.]

I see now. Yeah, no use in offering any type of advice with that kind of attitude in return.

Thanks for the compliments..

[brnxbomers]

I was merely giving him personal experiences on the matter. It had my BP flying all over the place, and I would NOT want that happening to him. I want his cycle to benefit him, not the opposite.

But it's his body chemistry, not mine, and pyramiding might have no ill side effects.

Brn, give it a go, and give us your results. Monitor your BP carefully and take necessary precautions when necessary. Good luck on your next cycle bro.

Thankyou. and to answer your previous question i did two cycle b4 this but because of underdosed gear. i was not able to get much...rest is history.

[HawaiianPride.]

I know I've said I wasn't going to offer advice in post #9, but this is your body, and your health. If you decide to cycle, do not run that much. You don't have enough experience, nor do you really know how your body will react to these compounds being introduced since you said your last batch was very under dosed.

If I were on though, I would not cycle yet.

[brnxbomers]

So, you gained 14lbs off your last cycle, meaning you started it at only 166lbs. I'm willing to bet you could have achieved this without the drugs.

What is your cycle history? Curious as to why your running nearly 2 grams of drugs at 170lbs. That's pretty hefty.

With my experience in pyramiding, it fluctuated my BP so bad I literally had to stop the cycle and PCT. I never suggest pyramids.

up till the age of 23 i worked out natty and my weight would not shoot past 155 lbs...that when i did a TEST only cycle @ 500 mgs for 10 weeks...gained 15 lbs....lost it all just as quickly...i ran 2 more cycles b4 my last one and both of them i had the misfortune of having BUNK gear.

So yes finally have some legit stuff. i did my pct properly this time and been eating and training rigourously like i did...and now im ready to for a real cycle now

[brnxbomers]

I especially like post 11 in this thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=428866

Dude whats your problem????

[brnxbomers]

I added the quote so you wouldn't think I was responding to you HP. I'm glad you advised, and I hope he listens.

i do and u need to stop battering me on my own thread...thats not cool. this is suppose to be for learning not making a learner look like shyt

[brnxbomers]

I especially like post 11 in this thread:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=428866

YES based on literature! but i have never tried it myself i have also read it works fine for some people....bro kindly stay clear of me...what is your deal tryin to make me look like i dont know what im talkin about..seriously chill out...u never say anything except "whooops there is OP messin it up again".

I WANT TO LEARN AND U SIR ARE NOT HELPING. AND IM TRYING TO FIGURE WHATS GOING TO WORK BEST FOR ME.

The litrature also dictates that test mite give u gyno...i have never had anything like that...so like he said "pyramid mite be fine for me". Its worked for some other people i know as well....this is all just trial and error. so help if u can. I dont need the bad press. WOW u amaze me...wtf are u like keepin tabs on how many times i mess up?? grow up arent u suppose to be the more mature on being 40 Years old making a 26 YO look bad..please spare me the BS and help if u can.

[Big]

my issue is simply that you often ask for advice then argue with those trying to help as if you know more than they do. look at the post I quoted above from less than a couple months ago, you were very clear and forceful in your response that "...pyramidding is prolly the worst way to cycle...PYRAMMIDDING IS THE WORST WAY TO CYCLE. Check on it..."
then start this thread telling us you're going to try pyramiding. either you're bordering on being a troll, or you're posting where you shouldn't.
as for me not responding to your threads, fair enough bro, last response.

[Jbert22]

brnxboomers. big was just stating facts. not tryin to suck ass cuz i dont know you or him but if you are going to experiment then go ahead and let us know how if goes. just be carefull not to contradict yourself when say do what i say not as i do! good luck and let us know how it goes bro!!

[dec11]

OP your posts always cause a ding dong of some sort, i think you just like to be noticed

[brnxbomers]

my issue is simply that you often ask for advice then argue with those trying to help as if you know more than they do. look at the post I quoted above from less than a couple months ago, you were very clear and forceful in your response that "...pyramidding is prolly the worst way to cycle...PYRAMMIDDING IS THE WORST WAY TO CYCLE. Check on it..."
then start this thread telling us you're going to try pyramiding. either you're bordering on being a troll, or you're posting where you shouldn't.
as for me not responding to your threads, fair enough bro, last response.

bro im not tryin to argue and to be honest im sure u know your stuff...but im not arguing just reasoning and trying to make sense of it all

[brnxbomers]

brnxboomers. big was just stating facts. not tryin to suck ass cuz i dont know you or him but if you are going to experiment then go ahead and let us know how if goes. just be carefull not to contradict yourself when say do what i say not as i do! good luck and let us know how it goes bro!!

I will to be honest u guys are the only support system i have...so i do apologize like i said im just trying to figure it out for myself...I am relying on you guys in case i get in trouble...i dont think i will but u never can know

[brnxbomers]

OP your posts always cause a ding dong of some sort, i think you just like to be noticed

lol its not like that...anyway im always reading up and trying to reason...thats all

[lovbyts]

Thankyou. and to answer your previous question i did two cycle b4 this but because of underdosed gear. i was not able to get much...rest is history.

You know most people like to blame under dosed gear when in reality it's obvious it was/is due to diet. You where to light to begin with and that's diet so no reason to think it miraculously changed.

Big is mearly trying to help you. Yes honesty sucks and is a tough pill to swallow (pride) but if you want to get good results and stay healthy you need to learn to swallow that pride and listen/learn.

[wharton]

up till the age of 23 i worked out natty and my weight would not shoot past 155 lbs...that when i did a TEST only cycle @ 500 mgs for 10 weeks...gained 15 lbs....lost it all just as quickly...i ran 2 more cycles b4 my last one and both of them i had the misfortune of having BUNK gear.

So yes finally have some legit stuff. i did my pct properly this time and been eating and training rigourously like i did...and now im ready to for a real cycle now

You couldnt get past 155lb because you were not eating enough food, you then cycled which increases your appetite and feed efficiancy, then when you came off cycle you ate like a 155lb guy again and lost it all. You shouldnt be cycleing gear your should be in the diet section learning how and when to eat food you dont need gear to gain mass you need a good anobolic diet.