Proviron-Anyone have an experience?

[eregitano]

Reading up on proviron is appears to be a very good compliment to TRT. From my research

" Proviron makes TRT more effective by preventing it's conversion into estrogen, as well as increasing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body. This of course all provides a more hardened and quality look to muscles. Proviron is very much a "synergistic" drug in this respect, and it´s inclusion in any cycle would definitely make all of the other anabolic compounds perform better, and provide better gains. This is all compounded by the fact that proviron is a very lipolytic (fat-burning) drug. "

Anyone have an experience with this compound?

[rmacgurn]

Reading up on proviron is appears to be a very good compliment to TRT. From my research

" Proviron makes TRT more effective by preventing it's conversion into estrogen, as well as increasing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body. This of course all provides a more hardened and quality look to muscles. Proviron is very much a "synergistic" drug in this respect, and it´s inclusion in any cycle would definitely make all of the other anabolic compounds perform better, and provide better gains. This is all compounded by the fact that proviron is a very lipolytic (fat-burning) drug. "

Anyone have an experience with this compound?

I also have been looking into it since PPC mentioned it a few weeks ago. i am going to Panama this weekend and will pick some up and try it myself so i can at least give you my insight in a few weeks. right no using arimidex 2x a week at .5mg to keep est in check...

[eregitano]

I also have been looking into it since PPC mentioned it a few weeks ago. i am going to Panama this weekend and will pick some up and try it myself so i can at least give you my insight in a few weeks. right no using arimidex 2x a week at .5mg to keep est in check...

great, looking forward to hearing your feedback. would you classify armidex and proviron in the same category?

[rmacgurn]

great, looking forward to hearing your feedback. would you classify armidex and proviron in the same category?

NO not at all. Arimidex is an AI, which means it inhibits the conversion of test to est. Proviron does several things but none as good as more recent drugs. it does bind to the aromataze enzyme and inhibits some conversion. it also weakly binds to E receptors so has some clomid/nolva like properties but again not as effectively. lastly it is usually used to raise libido and increase sperm count. I have also read as it sounds you have that it increases the effect of AS but i think those effects are due to reduced conversion and reduced E receptors. these same effects can be created better with other drugs...do a search on PPC posts as she also has some info on Proviron some studies I think.

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[PPC]

Here's the study I found interesting.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George’s Hospital Medical School London, U.K.
Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone
(LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

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The doses they used here were a lot higher than is generally needed to reap the rewards proviron offers and yet even at 100-150mg, it had no adverse effects on liver. I've done quite a bit of research on proviron and it seems from anecdotal experience, that most guys only need 50mg with trt or sometimes even half that to help out libido and to help manage estrogen.

I do not think it could fully take the place of an AI for someone like my husband who seems to convert T to E very readily.

I'll be really interested in Rmacgurn's response to proviron. He does a lot of testing so we will see hard evidence if there are negative or positive changes. PSA before and after would be interesting. It is ridiculous that it is not legal here in the US, being such a gentle oral.

My husband uses T shots and has high normal T now with E in check. But his calves are still completely hairless and his libido is still up and down. The lack of hair on his calves was one of the telltale signs we noticed that he was low in T. It has not grown back after six months on shots. I wonder if proviron would make changes there since body hair growth is determined by DHT.

My hope is that in doses of 25-50 mg alongside trt, it would increase sense of well being ( as some report), increase libido and sexual function, not affect the prostate negatively and maybe allow for lower doses of AI.

Anyone with first hand experiences out there, please chime in.

[Epic Ed]

I've been looking into it for a couple of months and have decided I'll be running it the next time I cycle deca. I'm interested in the synergistic effect with testosterone and the reported increased libido to help offset deca dick. Since the 1/2 life of proviron is 8-10 hours I'll be running 25mg 2x daily.

[PPC]

I've been looking into it for a couple of months and have decided I'll be running it the next time I cycle deca. I'm interested in the synergistic effect with testosterone and the reported increased libido to help offset deca dick. Since the 1/2 life of proviron is 8-10 hours I'll be running 25mg 2x daily.

Good. We will all benefit if you post your results, pros and cons here.

[Td00]

Keep us updated please!