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I have been amazed by this keto diet sunday through friday eating only fats and protein then loading carbs on saturday its crazy monday through friday you feel flat and skinny and seem to be not as strong then saturday you load and poof I feel like i immediately fill out muscle size seems to elevate. I will retest bf on monday and determine how many more weeks i may need to stay on the diet.....but truly an amazing feeling
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I hope it works well for you, I didn't personally have much luck with a CKD diet. After running it, I have a new outlook on carbs. Just like you said - you feel flat and crappy but then eat carbs and POOF - so doesn't that speak volumes about carbs and their role in energy and muscle growth? Made a believer out of me...Originally Posted by smalltime7
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im glad you posted I was thinking it may be in my head lol
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why do you think it didnt work for you?
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It is very hard for people to have lots of energy to train while on keto, that been said everyone is different. I am part of the people who cannot tolerate ketosis, and for me i never really got adapted to it, that being said i was in ketosis for nearly 1 month at one point.
Most people will do ok for a week or so but when the carb up comes they will pig out like crazy, gaining any weight that was lost during the week and sometimes more.
From my past experience i suggest that you eat your basic maintenance calories during the week, and try to do the same during the weekend but replace your fats and protein with carbs, also choose good carbs, not skittles and other crappy empty calories. If done properly you will see great results.
for me i just hated the awful feeling on Wednesday morning foggy, dizzy and out of energy.
I did bodyopus, the anabolic diet, atkins at one point stayed on for a month and the best that i really like was UD 2.0 from Lyle Mcdonalds you can either buy it or just find a torrent to download the book in PDF. It comes complete with training progam.
I was doing 2 full body workouts on Monday and Tuesday lifting 15 reps but heavy and doing the circuit twice.
On Wednesday i was doing another full body workout but this time shooting for 2 sets of 6 reps and on Friday if i had the energy i was doing another light workout.
You can take creatine on weekends and fat burners on week days.
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I was less than 100 g carbs for two weeks then i was referred to ketosis this will be my third week of ketosis and my 5th week total I havent tasted salt or sugar in five weeks on my carb loading I am very very strict and have followed damien's advice on carbs to a T I assume I will be in ketosis for another 2 weeks to meet my goals but I WILL stay on as long as I need to get my goal as far as lifting it is tough but I want to be lean so I continue. muscle seems to be staying on so far in fact although I have lost around seven lbs I look bigger.
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I never broke through that initial 'crappy feeling' phase. I couldn't stand feeling weak, irritable, etc. On top of that, my cardio went out the window (motivation was at an all time low) which didn't help with the fat loss goal. Moving a 45lb plate around the gym became a task, it felt so heavy.
I started out around 185, dropped down to 177 in about a month, but looked flat, deflated, and very thin. I have no doubt some muscle loss occurred, and very little if any fat loss.
In all fairness, I didn't follow the very strict plan laid out in Bodyopus; instead, I was much more liberal such as in 'The Anabolic Diet'. I kept carbs <20g during the week, continued with my usual workout routines (didn't do full body workouts, depletion workouts, etc) and on the weekend just did a big carb load day but didn't pay much attention to how much I was eating. Certainly this liberal approach negatively affected my progress.
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This. CKD type diets are really only for people with very strong motivation and a lot of fat to drop, imo.
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Damien,
when i started keto I was only 12.7% i wont be tested again till monday. I wonder if maybe i should switch gears to another plan BUT my goal is 9-10% I just dont want to over do it. please share your thoughts ST
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I should have been more specific. It's also a great tool to go from 12% to shredded. I was simply stating that if the goal is to look and feel your best, mood/energy as well - don't expect a keto diet to do that. It's strictly a fat loss tool
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I love CKD, and now TKD. Once you get through the first week or two, the energy from fat is far superiour to that of carbs. Once I eat carbs again, I feel like shit.
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what is TKD?
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I did a keto diet for about a month. Headaches, no energy, a general shitty feeling. I lost about 10lbs of fat but I would never put myself through that again.
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as previous post I have been doing well on keto last week i started 300 mg TRT today I dont look as cut as yesterday is there a chance I am already retaining come water?
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less than 100 g carbs before ketosis???
Now that you are on ketosis how many grams of carbs do u consume on weekdays? how many on weekends?
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sunday-friday no more than 20 grams a day they say you can do up to 30. saturday i load as follows I havent actually checked the macros this was given to me by another member here and its working so i wont change it.
the first rule is; don't over-do it. You can get away with a lot but a lot can easily turn into way too much. It's easy to binge when you've been deprived of crunchy, sweet, starchy flavors for so long. Drink lots of water and eat lots of veggies to stay full.
Rule number two: low, low, low fat diet for the day. Fat is 9 calories per gram. Assuming you eat 450-600g of carbs on this day and at least 200g of lean protein, that's already 2800 calories. Keep fat to the standard 30-50g that will come in your pro/carb sources only. The logic behind this is obvious; you'll eat way, way over your tdee with any added fats and store new body fat - negating some of your hard work and slowing body fat loss at least a bit.
Rule number three: avoid sweets and fruit. Sucrose and fructose will replenish liver glycogen which is not burned in the same way as muscle glycogen. This will cause you a harder re-entry into strong ketosis (4-5 days). A stack of pancakes with maple syrup in the AM as your cheat won't kill you but a bag of cookies and gummie bears will.
Rule number three: simple to complex. Start with simple carbs in the AM and shoot for 80g in each of your first three meals. Your following 3-5 meals should be centered around complex carbs. Taper off to the lowest GI options as the day progresses.
Sample diet for this day:
Meal 1:
1 medium starchy potato - hash browns.
2 pieces white toast
10 egg whites, 1 whole egg
Meal 2:
6 oz. grilled chicken breast
8-12" french baguette or ciabatta roll.
Lettuce, tomato, tspn. honey mustard
Meal 3:
6 oz. tilapia
2 tbspn. pico de gallo salsa
1.5 cups white rice.
meal 4:
6 oz. Flank steak
1 large sweet potato
Veggies
Meal 5:
6 oz. tilapia
1 cup brown rice
Veggies
Meal 6:
2 scoops casein
1 cup oats
Snacks:
- Baked torilla chips with salsa
- Rice cakes
- CEREAL!!!!!!!!!
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What is the logic behind eating simple carbs? I'd never advocate eating simple carbs. Low carb, Keto diets work. Most of the people that have problems with them simply dont consume enough fat. Fat provides energy.
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On keto the only time I feel blah (after the first day) is after I let carbs sneak in and kick me out. When I am in keto I have plenty of energy etc..
love me some keto
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X2. Plus, I never have gas whatsoever. I wish I could gain on keto. I'd never come off.
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i was gonna say my gas is gone when on keto i noticed after my carb load i get a bit gassy again is it just the carbs that do this?
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