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    Question Cycle suggestions for someone with many issues (thank you for your time)

    In short:
    I cannot take anti-e's, due to a disease I make no testosterone.

    I have access to up to 250mg of test cyp a week, and have accress to androgel.

    What currently available ph/designer steroids would be best for a lean gain/cut cycle? And should I include the test cyp and/or androgel?

    Ideally I am looking for Competitive Edge Labs products because they seem to be the most easily available.

    I already have high creatinine levels. So am worried about methylated steroids.

    I will do everything I can to avoid any steroid/ph that makes me lethargic. Also, it would be a huge plus if any of them actually gave me energy or made me feel better about life.

    My main goal is to loose fat (possibly weight) I really want the chiseled jaw I used to have, but also want to become much stronger and more muscular. (I know that many of you do not believe that it is possible to loose fat and gain muscle concurrently, but I disagree and have been doing so for the past three years)


    I'm sorry, I did not know which thread to put this in, feel free to move it.

    I'm 25
    200 pounds
    6 feet
    about 12-14% bodyfat
    I am fairly strong (yesterday I incline dumbell pressed 110's for 5)
    I've been lifting for about 8 years

    My diet is not as perfect and planned as it should be. I mainly just try to eat clean, don't eat sugar, get vegetables, and lots of protein. I have always figured that if I eat clean and work out if I gain weight it will be muscle and if I loose weight it will be fat. I know that I should have my diet more laid out, but when I have set out exactly when I am going to eat and what I have found that bodybuilding/lifting becomes the center of my life, and I want it to be an activity and a lifestyle, but not the center of my being.

    I currently "take" protein power and protein drinks and an ECA stack.

    I did one cycle of test enth 5 years ago
    I screwed around with some home made fina cream, but stopped after less than two weeks because everyone was mentioning my breath.
    When I was younger I screwed around irresponsibly with ph's.
    I have used both clomid and nolva (and 6-oxo) throughout my ph and test enth experiences

    Currently, due to disease I do not make testosterone. I have been given both andro-gel and test-cyp, by my doctor.

    Currently I cannot use any anti-e's due to epilepsy and have found that anti estrogens trigger seizures. (If anyone has any info on this I would greatly appeciate it)

    Luckily, I have never had a problem with gyno or hair loss, and since I do not make testosterone anymore I do not have to worry about loosing my testosterone making capabilitites. So not taking an anti-e is not a "huge" issue.

    Does anyone have any suggestions for the best competitve edge labs (or any easily attainable ds/ph) for a cutting, or recomp cycle? Also, I can use up to 250 mg of test cyp a week, and 10mg a day of the androgel.


    (I know that many believe that it is not possible to both gain muscle and concurrently loose fat, but I disagree and have been able to do so in the past)

    I understand that similar questions have been asked, but my certain circumstances are complex, so i thought I would ask for some personal advice. I have spent days trying to figure out what is best from websites and from ustfse.

    Thank you so very much for your time! I hope you all are doing very well.

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    If your goals are to loose bf and your diet at the moment is not perfect, I would sort your diet out and increase your cardio, I cant see why you would use AAS/PH's for your goals. If your on HRT at 250mgs per week you should be able to have great gains if your diet is in order.

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    ^^^ what he said

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    Do you think that ph/ps would keep me from loosing fat?

    As I said, I agree that ideally my diet should be more dialed in. I'm actually working with my gf to try to plan out our diets together.

    My first two excersices of every workout are done with 1.5 minute of rest between each set. (6 sets total) Then for the rest of my workout I do circuits. (usually 30-45 minutes of elevated heart rate)

    The only cardio I can currently due do to health issues/injuries is the arm bicycle thingy. Which sucks and doesn't burn calories for shit.

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    Are you aware ketogenic diets are used to reduce/prevent epilepsy seizures in children?

    Do you take medication for your seizures? What kind are they? Fit or switching off for a few seconds?

    My ex was epileptic and used to take lamotrogene.

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    So...are you using the test cyp or not? Because that is all I would recommend that you use.

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