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    very short cycle pct help!!

    Hey guys

    I started a short 4 week cycle of test prop at 525mg a week. I started to notice severe and i mean severe hairloss towards the beginning of the third week, so I cut it short and began my pct. I am 22 years old btw, 5 years training 6'1 205lbs. Ran 10-20mg of nolva ed during the cycle as I am extremely gyno prone. I also have arimidex 1mg tablets on hand, but i didnt really get bloated so i never used it

    Here are my questions:

    My balls never really shrank during the cycle and still hang pretty low. Please critique my pct

    clomid 100mg day 1 and then 50mg ed for 4 weeks
    nolva 40mg ed for week 1 and then 20 mg ed for the remaining 3 weeks

    Is this overkill? I dont want to lose my sex drive, but i figure the cycle was pretty light. Will such excessive pct have any adverse effects. I can tolerate clomid sides btw.

    Last question: Do i need to add arimidex to this pct, its a rather potent Ai and im afraid that it will destroy my sex drive, or is it simply not nescessary?

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    I don't think your planned pct will hurt you. You don't have to add the arimidex imo. Were you using any hair loss prevention ancillaries?
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    That pct should work, no need to add the adex.

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    Ok, thanks for the replies guys. Does anyone experience a lack of sex drive on nolva or clomid btw?

    As for hair loss ancilliaries, I thought of running finasteride (sp?) but i heard the side effects were horrendous. This hair loss thing is really preventing me properly cycling, 3 weeks of prop was excellent but lets be honest what can a 3 week cycle accomplish even at a gram of test a week, never mind 500mg.

    Any suggestions on hair loss.

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    I never experienced a complete lack of sex drive in my case. Even on cycles with highly suppressive compounds. But your body is always in a state of homeostasis and your hormones are all over the place during this time so don't be too worried if things are off or erections don't last as long. Things will balance out soon enough and your libido/hormones will eventually return back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavic456 View Post
    Ok, thanks for the replies guys. Does anyone experience a lack of sex drive on nolva or clomid btw?

    As for hair loss ancilliaries, I thought of running finasteride (sp?) but i heard the side effects were horrendous. This hair loss thing is really preventing me properly cycling, 3 weeks of prop was excellent but lets be honest what can a 3 week cycle accomplish even at a gram of test a week, never mind 500mg.

    Any suggestions on hair loss.
    Nizoral shampoo is the best thing I've found so far. I don't like finasteride. I've tried topical spiro but I literally get called out by everyone I come in contact with cuz it smells so bad.

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    Ive heard that topical spiro can shut you down and even cause some ED or libido issues. Any truth to these claims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavic456 View Post
    Ive heard that topical spiro can shut you down and even cause some ED or libido issues. Any truth to these claims?
    Not that I've heard of. That's what I was trying to avoid by not taking orals. That's pretty scary if there's any truth to it. I'm starting to think muscles and hair are just contradictory. You can have one or the other. I'm just about ready to say F it and adopt the shaved head look.

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    So im about 3 days into my pct and im having a problem maybe you guys can help me with.

    During my cycle it seemed as if there was very minimal testicular shrinkage, today however as I was in the shower i noticed my balls had shrunk, there not raisins but they've definitely shrunk.

    I assume this is not normal during pct. BTW sex drive is still strong, hopefully it is unaffected going further into the pct.

    Any merit in using a low dose HCG for a week, something like 250 iu ed or eod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slavic456 View Post
    So im about 3 days into my pct and im having a problem maybe you guys can help me with.

    During my cycle it seemed as if there was very minimal testicular shrinkage, today however as I was in the shower i noticed my balls had shrunk, there not raisins but they've definitely shrunk.

    I assume this is not normal during pct. BTW sex drive is still strong, hopefully it is unaffected going further into the pct.

    Any merit in using a low dose HCG for a week, something like 250 iu ed or eod?
    No don't take it, it may further hinder your recovery

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    Bump

    any more responses would be greatly appreciated.

    should i just wait the shrinkage out and see what happens or pursue some sort of treatment.

    Btw what do guys recommended for cortisol control? I have access to IM vitamin c dosed at 1000mg/ml. I was thinking of taking one injection eod for the duration of pct.

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