tren e, t400 question

[biggbn]

gonna start a course in a month, t400 blend, but it has the three longer lasting ester test in it, and tren enanthate....was thinking 2ml of each every 6 days..is that acceptable or should i be looking at more/less???....

also, presumeably strenght gains should come again....can i take deca with this course for the old joints....was thinking couple ml a week on top of above....??..advice please... cheers

[HawaiianPride.]

After reviewing your previous cycle history, I'm not sure if you are ready for Tren just yet. This will only be your second injectable, and the rest were oral only.

Me personally, I don't recommend taking 2 19nors in one cycle. Tren is the strongest anabolic compound out there, adding Deca in the mix may be a little too suppressive. A simple cycle of Test and Deca would suffice.

[biggbn]

ok cheers for that mate....it will be my third course of jabs, and i like what i hear about tren and the quality mass it can add....if i do decide to go down the tren route..9against your advice...!!)...is the doseage i suggest ok...and what about the t400, does that mix well with the tren.....should i take it every six days or simply split mon/thurs to maintain more equal blood levels....???....ie, instead of 2ml tren e and 2ml t400 once every six days, take a mil of each monday and again thursday????.....i really appreciate your advice guys as i have been lifting weights for a looong time but im kinda new to the whole gear thing, but at age 41 iv just decided **** it, go for broke haha

[gixxerboy1]

ok cheers for that mate....it will be my third course of jabs, and i like what i hear about tren and the quality mass it can add....if i do decide to go down the tren route..9against your advice...!!)...is the doseage i suggest ok...and what about the t400, does that mix well with the tren.....should i take it every six days or simply split mon/thurs to maintain more equal blood levels....???....ie, instead of 2ml tren e and 2ml t400 once every six days, take a mil of each monday and again thursday????.....i really appreciate your advice guys as i have been lifting weights for a looong time but im kinda new to the whole gear thing, but at age 41 iv just decided **** it, go for broke haha

you never said how many mg's the tren is. So 2ml per week means nothing.

I would inject t 400 x2 a week. mon/ thurs as you said. But no need to do 1ml per injection.

what are your stats so i can give more detialed advice

[biggbn]

the tren e is 200mg/ml mate....i am 41 year old, no interest in bodybuilding for aesthetics, just strength and power...have more of a strongman physique, weigh aprox 300lb with decent strength..would like to add quality mass and strength to what i have already but aim to drop to 270/280lb.....

waht you suggesting???.... when you say t400 twice a week how many ml do you mean.....thanks for the advice bro, its much appreciated....iv been training weights for 20 years or so now so im no stranger to the gym but kinda new to steroids etc....finished a course secveral months ago of 2ml test e 2ml deca mon/thurs kickstarted with oxy for 4 weeks..got great gains both to physique and strenght....

[D7M]

the tren e is 200mg/ml mate....i am 41 year old, no interest in bodybuilding for aesthetics, just strength and power...have more of a strongman physique, weigh aprox 300lb with decent strength..would like to add quality mass and strength to what i have already but aim to drop to 270/280lb.....

waht you suggesting???.... when you say t400 twice a week how many ml do you mean.....thanks for the advice bro, its much appreciated....iv been training weights for 20 years or so now so im no stranger to the gym but kinda new to steroids etc....finished a course secveral months ago of 2ml test e 2ml deca mon/thurs kickstarted with oxy for 4 weeks..got great gains both to physique and strenght....

height?

do you know your approximate body fat?

[biggbn]

6ft...and i carry too much fat, no question...not as much as i have in past...im fit, was running 10k a day till recently, but weight and strength dropped off way to quickly..went tdown to 18st4lb but wasnt happy at that weight....

if i do take this course, i am going to be very consciensious of diet and cardio though, hopefully build quality mass and strip away the fat.....i think id look ok a 270/280lb but like i said im not, and have no wish to be, a bodybuilder....thanks for the advice guys, much apreciated...

[HawaiianPride.]

Your BF concerns me a bit. You don't want to jump into cycle while carrying too much excess fat. You should already be on a strict diet and doing cardiovascular training. Don't wait until your on the cycle to get these going.

You said you finished a cycle just a couple months ago, did you follow the time on + pct = time off protocol?

[biggbn]

new to all this, you could be speaking swahili there mate...when i look at the strongmen on the tv etc...i wouldnt say i carry any more fat than the more traditional looking strength athletes...cant count pudz cos he's a freak haha....like i said above i would say i am fit although i am overweight....still run 2 miles 4 x a week no problem and am about to go back to judo and attend mma conditioning classes....also, i have a bike ordered so will start cycling to and from gym , round trip of about 14 miles a day...i know from prev experience weight falls of me doing this..strangley, i have quite vascular arms and can now see veins on my shoulders/biceps, even at this weight..

[biggbn]

looks like im setling on 1.5m t400 and 1ml tren e every 3.5 days.... so 1200mg test mix and 400mg tren every week....how does that sound for first tren cycle,,,

[Sector]

looks like im setling on 1.5m t400 and 1ml tren e every 3.5 days.... so 1200mg test mix and 400mg tren every week....how does that sound for first tren cycle,,,

Holdddddd up. No no no. What was your last cycle? Did you run 1200mg of Test? This is your first run with tren I highly doubt you need to run that much test considering how strong tren is said to be. I have never run tren but when I do I am going to keep my test very low and let the tren do the work.

[biggbn]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=417174 my last course....got great gains, finished about three months from first post in this thread... seems to be conflicting advice here...im looking to build quality mass and was told need to tkae test with tren e..?....just looking for advice, you guys are the experts...??....

having digested everything iv read here and elsewhere, might just go on t400 and deca but i hear so much good things bout tren and thus far iv had minimal if any sides from ANYTHING iv taken....

[biggbn]

just popped in to say im halfway thru tren e and t400 cycle...strength gains good, musclature improved and dropped 18lb in bodyweight...gonna attempt to cut right down over second half of course....stuff works good forme and no sides other than sweating...