Using T cream via antiaging clinic - Need cheaper alternative

[FPierce]

Background: I'm doing HRT through an anti-aging clinic. The basic routine prescribed is: (1) T cream, compounded; (2) HCG; and (3) adex. I use the cream daily for about 1 month, then go to HCG injections every 3 days for about 5 weeks. I also take adex every other day, perpetually. I'm happy with the results. Maintaining in the 800s, which was my goal. I'm looking to maintain this level for life. (I'm 47).

Problem: It's very expensive. The doctor fees are $1000 every 6 months; cream is about $120 per month, labs are outrageous, etc. The doctor obviously marks up product and labs.

I have an alternative source for the HCG. I can't find an alternative source for the cream - no compounding lab will make it without a prescription. So I'm considering replacing the cream with injectible T.

Question: (1) Which T should I use, and (2) how much should I use (dose and frequency) to maintain the mild elevated levels I've obtained?

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[Vettester]

Now that's what I call getting gouged!

Ditch the cremes! Go with injections. Test Cypionate is very common in the TRT community. Dosages range from 100mg to 200mg for most people. IMO, you could probably sustain your current levels by doing 100mg-150mg of cyp, and 250iu x 2 or 3/wk of HCG.

Shop around with other places. Your doc is obviously looking for people to help renew his membership at Pebble Beach.

[Epic Ed]

Assuming you're going to take 100mg EW, a 10mL bottle of test cyp 200mg/mL will yield you 20 weeks of treatment. Even if you're paying out of pocket you should be able to get a script for test cyp filled for $100 or less. Buy your adex (LiquiDex) from AR-R (site sponsor, top right corner) for a lot cheaper than your HRT clinic is offering. HCG you're own your own, but if you already have a source you're good to go.

[FPierce]

Thanks guys. I appreciate the info.

Is there any literature available about why cyp is better than other t products?

Also, is the adex from that company the real deal? I thought you needed a prescription for it.

[Epic Ed]

If you can get a script for adex and have it covered by insurance, that's the best way to go. But if you're paying out of pocket you might as well go with the cheapest alternative. I take the LiquiDex from AR_R and it definitely works.

[Vettester]

I don't know if there's any literature or articles giving any scientific proof if Cypionate or Enanthate is superior to gels or cremes. From a doctor's standpoint, I've actually read more information that supports the transdermal applications opposed to the injections, but IMO that is just subjective and could have other motivations attached to it.

The only real evidence I have is my own personal testimony, along with the countless number of threads I have read (several forums) that clearly side with injections. Unfortunately, doctors tend to discount the real life experience stories from guys like you and me, which is a current flaw in the HRT/TRT field. AA Clinics are capitalizing on this, but I think it will adjust and catch up at some point when corporate heads 'react' to their current bottom line and their potential bottom line.

In your case, I don't think your doctor is as ignorant as he is greedy. Being an AA clinic doc, he should be very familiar with injections. I doubt he has any problems at all with it, except one ... Less $$$ for him. Just tell him that this is the route you want to go, and if he can't comply then there's other places that are giving you some good quotes.

[FPierce]

Thanks - appreciate the quality info.