Mass Cycle To Hit 300 Pounds

[Kaytime]

My goal is to get to 300 pounds then slowly start a dieting cycle. i am not a beginner and i have done many cycles in the past and atm im on a insulin cycle as a 4 week off period. i will give you my stats

Age: 24
Weight: 124kg
Height: 182cm
bf: 17 - 18%
Goals: my goals are to compete plain n simple
Cycles: too many to remember

I have to admit insulin is one drug i got to say i love. i go by the book with this drug and i dont F*%K around with it but i will include this again in half way through the cycle when the deca kicks in.

CYCLE:
1 - 3wks Anadrol 75mg
1 - 12wks Test e 1400mg
1 - 10wks Deca 800mg
5 - 10wks Insulin 15iu's

Then after that i will go on a low dose test cruise for 10 weeks

[G4R]

What will your bulking diet look like?

Are you going to cut the BF down before bulking?

[Vitruvian-Man]

The cycle looks fine... I personally wouldn't use that much test, but if that's what makes you grow then so be it.

Are you shooting the slin' PWO? or are you dividing the 15iu into x 2/ed?

-VM

[Bigmax]

hmm ok cycle looks ok...your nutrition has to be on point too...aswell as training...in my opinion your BF is a bit on the high side...but then again you didnt ask anything..what kind of slin are you using?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Are you going to cut the BF down before bulking?

... why the hell would anyone reduce weight prior to cycling, if the WHOLE point of their cycle is to gain 30 pounds??

He's competing. This is a bulk. BF increases are inevitable. The whole "dangers" of cycle with high BF is absolutely B.S.

-VM

[Bigmax]

... why the hell would anyone reduce weight prior to cycling, if the WHOLE point of their cycle is to gain 30 pounds??

He's competing. This is a bulk. BF increases are inevitable. The whole cycle with high BF is absolutely B.S.

-VM

Not true bro...the higher BF the higher estrogen sides...true BF can go higher on cycles but if youre looking to have an easier time leaning out whats the use of puttin on so much fat??

[Vitruvian-Man]

Not true bro...the higher BF the higher estrogen sides...true BF can go higher on cycles but if youre looking to have an easier time leaning out whats the use of puttin on so much fat??

... But bro... The OP just said that he is not concerned with fat gain, and is going to be using a cutting diet proceeding the bulk.

Yes, it is hard to lose fat while retaining muscle, but when you're talking about 280+ pounds then it's a whole different ball game.

I'm sure you realize how hard it is on the body to retain 300 pounds of mass while staying at 14% or < BF...

Oh and man... estro sides that arise from high BF can be easily controlled by an AI.

-VM

[HawaiianPride.]

Weren't you just on a Test/Tren/Deca/Slin cycle 2 months ago. In fact I remember reading your log on it as well.

How did that turn out?

[Bigmax]

we both have points my bro..im a firm believer from experience that when trying cut a large percentage of fat muscle will def go with it..i really cant say that Bf can be controlled by an AI..that is more for water retention as estrogen...but i will say that your choices in types of food you consume will control it a bit better...Ive seen guys bulk up to 290 only to diet down and step on stage 225...its almost crazy..

[Vitruvian-Man]

we both have points my bro..im a firm believer from experience that when trying cut a large percentage of fat muscle will def go with it..i really cant say that Bf can be controlled by an AI..that is more for water retention as estrogen...but i will say that your choices in types of food you consume will control it a bit better...

Well said.

Ive seen guys bulk up to 290 only to diet down and step on stage 225...its almost crazy..

Genetics are a mysterious little b*tch

So unfair.

Have a good night boys,

-VM

[Bigmax]

Night bro..lolol

[bigp750]

ever thought about pushing out the cycle a little bit longer like 15-20 weeks?

[Kaytime]

ill give you a small sample of my diet.

Meal 1: 12 Weetbix mixed with 2 scoops of protein and milk. and 6 scrambled eggs
Meal 2: 450g steak with rice
Meal 3: (Hour Before Training) 5 Weetbix mixed with protein shake and peanut butter
TRAINING: i take my supps before n after CREATINE/PROTEIN ect
Meal 4: 500g Chicken breast & 3 Sandwich grilled Breadrolls with cottage cheese in them
Meal 5: 450g Steak with Hot Oven baked chips (I CUT EM UP MYSELF N MAKE IT)
Meal 6: 400g Fish Fillet & Rice
Meal 7 (40m Before Bed) Cottage Cheese In a bread roll.
SLEEP: sometimes i wake up and eat some tuna..

Dont get me wrong guys i still look a bit lean/mass but the size is there and atm im a eating machine. i havent had a cheat meal since 2 years ago im very controlled

As for dieting i make sure i consume enought of the right food and right amount with cardio aswel. i also have pro bodybuilders who are mates who help me out when i diet.

[CMB]

I'd up the cycle to 14 weeks, deca running through the first 12. add injectable b12 to increase appetite. Also, if you're going for 1.4g of test e I would bump the deca up to 1g. Its one hell of a bulking cycle but it needs some tweaking

[Kaytime]

The cycle looks fine... I personally wouldn't use that much test, but if that's what makes you grow then so be it.

Are you shooting the slin' PWO? or are you dividing the 15iu into x 2/ed?

-VM

Im just shooting it PWO.

i have Fast Acting Insulin and im curious to know how you take it in the morning. all i know is to take it before breakfast but im curious to know if u take Dextrose straight after aswel or with ur breakfast

[Vitruvian-Man]

I always follow the same protocol and shoot mine @ 10iu PWO and late night.

I always take a protein shake after... keep it simple... 25g protein (no more b/c it'll slow digestions); creatine; glutamine.

I always keep a Coke-Cola near by. (for an emergency.)

How many Iu are you thinking about adding to your AM regiment?

Hope that helped bro,

-VM

[Kaytime]

I always follow the same protocol and shoot mine @ 10iu PWO and late night.

I always take a protein shake after... keep it simple... 25g protein (no more b/c it'll slow digestions); creatine; glutamine.

I always keep a Coke-Cola near by. (for an emergency.)

How many Iu are you thinking about adding to your AM regiment?

Hope that helped bro,

-VM

Do you use insulin late night aswel?

well PWO i use 16iu's i was thinking 10iu's before breakfast and 10iu's PWO

Thanks for the help

[Kaytime]

Weren't you just on a Test/Tren/Deca/Slin cycle 2 months ago. In fact I remember reading your log on it as well.

How did that turn out?

It went very well actually. i dropped alot of bodyfat but gained around 9kg Lean muscle.

i didnt have any problems with prolactyn levels or gyno but i just got a bit of big harsh pimples on my back. they were a son of a bitch

didnt have no problems with erections or anything aswel everything was great

[Vitruvian-Man]

Do you use insulin late night aswel?

well PWO i use 16iu's i was thinking 10iu's before breakfast and 10iu's PWO

Thanks for the help

lol... yeah man, that's what my last post said. I run it... 10iu post-workout, and late-night before bed.

Sounds like a good protocol to me. I have buddy's who run it AM/PWO/PM

I prefer just twice per day.

I can't get the morning to work for slin' & my schedule. The eating/work is a tad too spuratic...

I'd probs be going hypo constantly if I tried to incorperate it into the mix

-VM

[Kaytime]

i just got stunned cause i heard alot of people say you cant sleep while insulin is active in your body and when i saw you say at night im thinkin DAMN THIS GUY MUST NOT SLEEP.

[gymnerd]

i just got stunned cause i heard alot of people say you cant sleep while insulin is active in your body and when i saw you say at night im thinkin DAMN THIS GUY MUST NOT SLEEP.

I wonder what would happen if you went hypo while you were sleaping? Stupid question why not just cut down and compete right now at a local show to get some experiance? Then start bulking up as you go? Thats what I would do if I was into BB. I might do it one day just to say I did.

[Bigmax]

I wonder what would happen if you went hypo while you were sleaping? Stupid question why not just cut down and compete right now at a local show to get some experiance? Then start bulking up as you go? Thats what I would do if I was into BB. I might do it one day just to say I did.

If you went hypo while sleeping chances are you will not wake up...there have cases of people dropping and going straight into a coma and passing...not a good idea to use at all i you have no experience with it...

[bigp87]

you got any pics before & after cycle Kaytime? Or any current pics

[Kaytime]

well i do have a photo from 5 -6 months ago but see the way i check my progress is to take photos every 6 months to see any improvments or changes or what i have to work on rather then every week seeing the same size with little or no being bigger

[Kaytime]

well i just got 2 photos up in the album but there pretty old. i usually take photos every couple months to see progress i might take a few in the next couple of days before i start the cycle in a couple weeks

[HawaiianPride.]

Looking big. Keep it up bro.

[Kaytime]

Thanx buddy i appreciate it...

[gymnerd]

If you went hypo while sleeping chances are you will not wake up...there have cases of people dropping and going straight into a coma and passing...not a good idea to use at all i you have no experience with it...

Yeah, thats kind of what I was thinking. I wouldnt do it that close to bed personaly.

[MACHINE5150]

thats a pretty serious diet/WO program. Stick to it and im sure you will hit 300lbs in no time.. I recomend reading Ronnies post about Slingshoting.. its a good read and might help you get over that 300lb barrie

[Kaytime]

where can i find the post buddy?

[Vitruvian-Man]

i just got stunned cause i heard alot of people say you cant sleep while insulin is active in your body and when i saw you say at night im thinkin DAMN THIS GUY MUST NOT SLEEP.

hahaha.... no man, I sleep... But truthfully not very much.

I'm about as light a sleeper as they come.

Got a question for you... have you considered adding the peptide GHRP-6 into the bulk?

100mcg x 3/ed (AM/PWO/Bed-time)

Excellent addition IMO.

-VM

[HawaiianPride.]

hahaha.... no man, I sleep... But truthfully not very much.

I'm about as light a sleeper as they come.

Got a question for you... have you considered adding the peptide GHRP-6 into the bulk?

100mcg x 3/ed (AM/PWO/Bed-time)

Excellent addition IMO.

-VM

Couldn't agree more. Got a special going on with this peptide through my source, I'm very temped.

[PK-V]

any pic's?


and what age did you start using AAS as you have a lot of cycles under your belt and only 24, if you don't mind me asking?

[Kaytime]

hahaha.... no man, I sleep... But truthfully not very much.

I'm about as light a sleeper as they come.

Got a question for you... have you considered adding the peptide GHRP-6 into the bulk?

100mcg x 3/ed (AM/PWO/Bed-time)

Excellent addition IMO.

-VM

haha that explains alot. i love my sleep i get over 8 - 10 hours of sleep every night. BIG SLEEPER!!!

i have heard of this peptide before but curious to know how long it takes to kick in.

[Kaytime]

any pic's?


and what age did you start using AAS as you have a lot of cycles under your belt and only 24, if you don't mind me asking?

i got a album buddy there some old photos.

i was 18 at the time turning 19. i jumped on aas because i was a bouncer

[Vitruvian-Man]

haha that explains alot. i love my sleep i get over 8 - 10 hours of sleep every night. BIG SLEEPER!!!

i have heard of this peptide before but curious to know how long it takes to kick in.

Man, I'm so envious.

Even on GH my sleep patterns do not improve.

My body awakens immediately upon any light hitting my eyes... so 5:15 - 5:40am every morning, keep the party rollin'

.... I'm thinking about changing my career path, and work to become a farmer now

Regarding GHRP... fairly quickly. GHRP-6 is definitely a good bulking compound. It's also ideal if you aren't overly concerned with gaining some fat while using it.

This is because the ghrelin hunger that GHRP-6 induces will make you crave fats/carbs. (that was in my case.)

I believe I've been running it for 2 - 3 months straight right now bro.

-VM

[Kaytime]

Man, I'm so envious.

Even on GH my sleep patterns do not improve.

My body awakens immediately upon any light hitting my eyes... so 5:15 - 5:40am every morning, keep the party rollin'

.... I'm thinking about changing my career path, and work to become a farmer now

Regarding GHRP... fairly quickly. GHRP-6 is definitely a good bulking compound. It's also ideal if you aren't overly concerned with gaining some fat while using it.

This is because the ghrelin hunger that GHRP-6 induces will make you crave fats/carbs. (that was in my case.)

I believe I've been running it for 2 - 3 months straight right now bro.

-VM

Ill definatly look into this GHRP-6. but in Australia everythings so god damn expensive down here you wouldnt beleive it. stupidest laws here aswel.

does this GHRP-6 come in a kit or just a vial?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Ill definatly look into this GHRP-6. but in Australia everythings so god damn expensive down here you wouldnt beleive it. stupidest laws here aswel.

does this GHRP-6 come in a kit or just a vial?

Yeah, I've heard it's absurd down there.

GHRP-6 comes in little vials, similar to HGH.

Just reconstitute and refrigerate after. Simple.

However, that said, and now knowing your location (aus,) I'm not sure if it would be a worth-while addition if you're paying top-dollar for the peptide.

Anyways - best of luck.

-VM

[Kaytime]

im planning to go thailand end of this year i might use it over there cause im staying there for 2 months

[NMacFar]

I can't tell much from those pics but you are clearly a big guy. How big are your arms?