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    Ok, here goes again - Injections or Oral

    Hi,

    I came across http://www.***********.com/ which is a section of steroid.com itself. What I did see was there are many oral alternatives to actual injections.

    How effective are they ? and is it the same ?

    Please note, all this is in context to the Novice cycle.

    The Novice Cycle mentions (optional) 25 mg of Dianabol with 400 mgs Testosterone (Cypionate or Enanthate)

    I did see oral for D-anabol 25 so that leaves the Test, and that would be ONLY the injectable right ?

    I'd anytime prefer oral to injections, but its not the same I guess ?

    Ps: Dianabol , Dbol - Methandrostenolone, D-anabol is the same ?
    Last edited by shylock; 08-23-2010 at 09:41 PM.

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    Orals are hard on the liver and should be ran to kick start or finish off injectable cycles. Either first 4 weeks or the last four. Some people push it to 6 but 4 is the norm.

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    Those aren't steroids. They're supplements (prob creatine and sugar). Its confusing, we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Those aren't steroids. They're supplements (prob creatine and sugar). Its confusing, we know.
    What aren't steroids Bona ?

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    The stuff on the link at the top middle of the page is what bona is talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    Orals are hard on the liver and should be ran to kick start or finish off injectable cycles. Either first 4 weeks or the last four. Some people push it to 6 but 4 is the norm.
    Ok, the optional can be Dianabol oral but the Test has to be injectable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    The stuff on the link at the top middle of the page is what bona is talking about.
    Damm lol, should THANK Bona for this I guess.

    That leaves me with a new question, where then ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shylock View Post
    Ok, the optional can be Dianabol oral but the Test has to be injectable.
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by shylock View Post
    Damm lol, should THANK Bona for this I guess.

    That leaves me with a new question, where then ?
    Sorry bro but asking for sources is against the rules here.

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    My bad, sorry.

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    yah, cant ask for sources on open forum. Definately dont think those pills are real anabolics. You will be greatly dissapointed.

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    Shylock just a heads up, if ppl msging you on here trying to sell you stuff, chances are they are scammers - ignore it. You may get a few msgs because you asked for a source.

    Just trying to look after ya

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    @ Berserker, yes, your right on! appreciate the advice.

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    Orals, as mentioned are hard on the liver. This can be handled by taking liver support while on your cycle. Liv52 or Milk Thistle are good choices.

    Injectibles will bypass the liver and are therefore easier on the body. A first cylce is typically going to be recommended to be test only.

    There is oral test, but my guess is that the injectible is more potent and also safer. 99.9% of the guys who run test are running injectible test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    Orals, as mentioned are hard on the liver. This can be handled by taking liver support while on your cycle. Liv52 or Milk Thistle are good choices.

    Injectibles will bypass the liver and are therefore easier on the body. A first cylce is typically going to be recommended to be test only.

    There is oral test, but my guess is that the injectible is more potent and also safer. 99.9% of the guys who run test are running injectible test.
    Injecting only avoids the first hepatic pass. "Injectables" are (generally) non-toxic because they don't have a methyl group at the 17-position to preserve oral biovailability (and alter the compound into something more potent).

    And did you know that 76.643% of statistics are made up on the spot

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    Correct, the orals, since they are absorbed through the digestive tract must pass through the liver prior to entering the bloodstream of the body at large. The 17aa chemical modification is done so that the compound is not simply eliminated from the body by the liver during this process. Unfortunately this makes them harder on the liver.

    Injectibles still pass through the liver, but on the way back, as they are introduced via intramuscular injection and therefore absorbed directly into the bloodstream. They don't need the 17aa modification in order to keep from being eliminated by the liver the first time through, because they bypass the liver up front.

    Ultimately all steroids will be processed out the by the liver, so the liver is still getting a bit of a workout, even with the injectibles.

    It's also important to note that some injectibles, like Winstrol, are still 17aas, so even though they are injected they still pose hepatoxicity. Winstrol is the only one that comes immediately to mind, but there may be others.

    And it's 78.966% of statistics are made up on the spot.

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