out for 2 years, any changes ? gettin started again

[in2shape]

so havent done any fitness at all for past 2 years or so maybe less apart from carpentry i do 4 work ....

wanting to start training again and wanting to do a cycle

can i start cycle str8 away ? or get some sort of base goin 1st say 3 months minimum at least ?

dunno if theres been any changes in gear and pct protocol but was gunna do this when the time comes ..

1-10 test cyp 400mgs
8-12 var @ 40mgs (or can do as weeks 1-4)
13-18 nolva 20/20/20/10/10

current stats
1st cycle
182cm tall approx
92kgs
about 18-22% bf
trained on and off for 5 years previously
29 yrs old
male
all blood levels healthy (just tested )

cheers

[in2shape]

oh and have adex .5 eod still protocol ?? cant remember where when to run it tho any help ? cheers

[Bonaparte]

I would take advantage of muscle memory for at least 3 months first. I've found that gains come back about 8X faster than it took to make them the first time around. Why waste AAS on something you could easily do naturally? This is also safer, as the combination of muscle memory and steroids could easily cause injury to your weakened tendons.

[TKO Performance]

Absolutely. It will come crashing back anyway, so why waste money? Spend at least three months, ideally more like six months to a year getting back into the routine, etc.

[HawaiianPride.]

Good advice guys. Personally would utilize 6+ months at the very least. Come back then and we'll set you up with a cycle.

[in2shape]

ok so ill wait and do the 6 months, ill go back to my old eating habits ( alot better than now ) and training hard then do cycle etc, i hear ya when you say 6 months is better than 3 and do it natty b4 gear etc ...

this being said what do you guys think about how i planned out my cycle ??

at least if i get it tweaked and need anything else eg anciliries clomid etc more test more var or what eva i have time to organise gear aint easily came by where im at ill need that time , so i wont be going on and doing cycle regardless b4 any1 says otherwise !!!


thx 4 the responses

[HawaiianPride.]

I would extend the Var to at least 6 weeks as a starter or finisher, you choice. Possibly up the dosage to around 50 and assess from there. Or you can save the oral for your second cycle.
Test looks good.
PCT should include Tamox @ 40/40/20/20 and Clomiphene @ 50/50/50/50
Liver support for the oral and keep an AI on hand (Dex or Exe)

[in2shape]

I would extend the Var to at least 6 weeks as a starter or finisher, you choice. Possibly up the dosage to around 50 and assess from there. Or you can save the oral for your second cycle.
Test looks good.
PCT should include Tamox @ 40/40/20/20 and Clomiphene @ 50/50/50/50
Liver support for the oral and keep an AI on hand (Dex or Exe)

might get some clomid then and as for the adex ive got some can u refresh my memory on dosage protocol when to start and how long 4 cant remember 4 the life of me ... also what its dosage normally comes in cant remember what mine is eithe r but will as soon as i see it might get some more var whilst im getting clomid to

will take coq10, fish oils, multi-v, milk thistle, whilst on plenty water good diet solid training ... almost there lol

[HawaiianPride.]

For prevention Dex should be 0.5mg EOD and started a week before the cycle.

[in2shape]

For prevention Dex should be 0.5mg EOD and started a week before the cycle.

how long do i run it 4 ?

and how is it dosed in bottle ? eg 1cc = ????

know what i mean ?

thx 4 all the help sorry bout all the q's

[Bonaparte]

how long do i run it 4 ?

and how is it dosed in bottle ? eg 1cc = ????

know what i mean ?

thx 4 all the help sorry bout all the q's

The concentration should be listed on the bottle.

[HawaiianPride.]

You can run it throughout the entirety of the cycle, or just utilize it when it's needed.

[TKO Performance]

Definitely increase your Anavar to 6 weeks minimum. You could go as high as 8 weeks. You might think about running the Anavar right up until you start your PCT. Anavar isn't as suppressive as test, so you should still get some rebound production as the test burns itself out. You might want to bump the dose up to 50mg as well.

[in2shape]

Definitely increase your Anavar to 6 weeks minimum. You could go as high as 8 weeks. You might think about running the Anavar right up until you start your PCT. Anavar isn't as suppressive as test, so you should still get some rebound production as the test burns itself out. You might want to bump the dose up to 50mg as well.

bonaparte - i have removed label as i sold half to a mate hence y i asked what is normal concentration, thx 4 stating the obvious

hawaiian pride - so ill just run it when needed hi estro sides or to prevent gyno throughout cycle ? and if this dont work run the nolva 4 bad gyno if arises ??

will try and get more var hard to find tho here in oz will it be a waste at 40mg/ed weeks 8-12 ? if i cant get more ?

thx guys

[HawaiianPride.]

Throughout cycle to prevent sides. The AI should work.

[TKO Performance]

Can't say 100% if it will be a waste to use for only 4 weeks, but 8 weeks is the typical cycle length, and a few guys have gone as long as 10. This to me means that gains do not start right away, and tend to be loaded more towards the end of the cycle than the beginning. Consequently, to see those gains I'd advise a longer cycle.

[Bonaparte]

bonaparte - i have removed label as i sold half to a mate hence y i asked what is normal concentration, thx 4 stating the obvious

Are you copping an attitude with me when I was the first person to help you in this thread, or did I just read that wrong?

Either way, I don't know where you got your Adex from (and you didn't tell us), so how the hell can we possibly know what the concentration is? Removing the label was your own stupid mistake, so don't take it out on me.