T-bol or Var for cut?

[matt77]

Well I am slowly getting back to heavy lifting after the back injury/surgery over a year ago. Before doing an injectable cycle I want to do a very mild cut to get my bf back close to 10%.

I will be using ECA, T3, and (Var or T-bol). I've never used a oral for a cut and wondered which one would be best suited for maintaining muscle while using the T3 on reduced Cals? So what compound works better with T3 in your opinion? Price is about the same for either so thats a moot point.

My main goal with the oral is maintaining as much muscle as possible. I will be taking high amounts of BCAAs while on the reduced cals to help as much as I can. 6-8 weeks is the planned timeframe with a PCT of Clomid/Nolva dose according to compound used and bloodwork.

Right now as of this morning I am sitting at 6'3", 242, ~15% BF.

[BEER WHORE]

good question

[matt77]

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[KyleJumpjets]

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[matt77]

It means your bumping the thread back to the top of the page.

[awms]

Why not both? there both very anabolic compounds and both easy on the liver. I have used tbol and loved it! I used it at 80mg the first two weeks and 100mg the thrid and fourth week.

Anavar is the only steroids that has actually been shown to aid in fat loss but its not a very good mass builder at all...tbol is a big better at mass building and it really makes your muscle feel full and make you extremely vascular!

you could try: 80mg tbol/40mg var a day for 6 weeks.

[Necrosaro]

T-bol is my favorite and I have used both. ^However with your post both are not very anabolic but do have some. Fat loss is due to working out or eating better under cycle. Anavar will lean you out a bit but it won't blast the fat away.

[Bonaparte]

Anecdotally, Tbol is the least suppressive oral and has less incidence of libido side effects. I'd go with that and report back, as we're all sick of hearing about Var cycles.

[Lean1038]

Var is pathetically weak and a waste of money. TBol is great! 60-80mg ED for 40-60 days gives size, strength, and clean gains while aiding in holding onto muscle during a cut.

With that being said, legit oral Primo is hands down the best oral I've used during a cut. (Stacked with TBol)

[matt77]

Thanks for the input guys I guess I'll try out the t-bol and report back. I'll also look into the oral Primo. Whats the dosage scale for the oral Primo? Same as inject divided daily?

[Bonaparte]

I'll also look into the oral Primo. Whats the dosage scale for the oral Primo? Same as inject divided daily?

You'd need to double it, since its only a 1-methyl. Just inject it. Only rich pussies bother with oral primo.

[azz10]

Why not both? there both very anabolic compounds and both easy on the liver. I have used tbol and loved it! I used it at 80mg the first two weeks and 100mg the thrid and fourth week.

Anavar is the only steroids that has actually been shown to aid in fat loss but its not a very good mass builder at all...tbol is a big better at mass building and it really makes your muscle feel full and make you extremely vascular!

you could try: 80mg tbol/40mg var a day for 6 weeks.

agree with awms! tbol/var combo will give u pretty decent results. i've used both compounds alone and combo. personally, i find tbol only produces better results than var only. and when u combine both, the results are far better.

[Lean1038]

Thanks for the input guys I guess I'll try out the t-bol and report back. I'll also look into the oral Primo. Whats the dosage scale for the oral Primo? Same as inject divided daily?

As Bonaparte stated, you'll want double what you'd run weekly with injectables.

I liked 150mg ED. It's great stuff and FAR better/cheaper than Var (From my source)

[matt77]

thanks guys

[Bonaparte]

As Bonaparte stated, you'll want double what you'd run weekly with injectables.

I liked 150mg ED. It's great stuff and FAR better/cheaper than Var (From my source)

That kinda makes me question your source's sanity, since Methenolone raws are always more costly than Anavar...(usually 1.5-2X as much per gram).

[Lean1038]

That kinda makes me question your source's sanity, since Methenolone raws are always more costly than Anavar...(usually 1.5-2X as much per gram).

It's on sale right now.

I've used it before with great results.

[HeavyHitter]

I would do some more research because I was always told Var is better. Tbol is the cheaper generic version of var... pretty close to the real deal but just not the same!!

[TTFU]

If you can afford it, var.

If not, tbol.

[AzRhyno]

Nice thread thank you I had the same questions

[matt77]

I would do some more research because I was always told Var is better. Tbol is the cheaper generic version of var... pretty close to the real deal but just not the same!!

Bro, I appreciate the attempt of helping but T-Bol is not Generic Var. It is a totally different compound. T-bol was invented by the Germans to use in their Olympic athletes. It is actually related to D-Bol.

If you can afford it, var.

If not, tbol.

They are both the same price from my source so that doesn't matter. I have decided to run both anyways now.

[Sector]

They are both the same price from my source so that doesn't matter. I have decided to run both anyways now.

Like somebody else said, I would be questioning your source a bit. Var the same price as Tbol? Sounds like Winny being passed off as Var.

[matt77]

Like somebody else said, I would be questioning your source a bit. Var the same price as Tbol? Sounds like Winny being passed off as Var.

That comment wasn't toward me. Bonaparte was talking about Lean's post about Primo. I can without one doubt trust my source. They are one of if not the most respected sources out there.

[Sector]

That comment wasn't toward me. Bonaparte was talking about Lean's post about Primo. I can without one doubt trust my source. They are one of if not the most respected sources out there.

I envy you. My var cost me an arm n a leg

[matt77]

I envy you. My var cost me an arm n a leg

Bro, I'll also add that the reason for it being the same price is probably because they only sell bulk gear.

[TTFU]

They are both the same price from my source so that doesn't matter. I have decided to run both anyways now.

Both? Ouch.