steroids, are they really that dangerous?

[ebenezer howard]

i have been contemplating using steroids for some time now but am a little hesitant as they get a lot of bad press and if i have to choose between the ability to get a boner and have kids one day or some extra poundage in the gym i think i no which id choose. now i no first hand that a lot of hype about drugs in general is massively exaggerated and although they are defiantly not good for you they are no way near as bad for you as ppl will have you believe. i was just wondering if any ppl on this site has had any bad experiences from using steroids and any recommendations for the first time user.

for my self personally i have decided to wait a few years before using as i am currently 21, so i am simply asking out of curiosity.

thanx

[Atomini]

They are not as benign as some people claim.

They are not as dangerous as some people claim.

When done properly with all precautionary measures taken, it can be made as safe as possible. There are plenty who have been doing this for decades (some 40+ years) and are fine, can have children, and so on and so forth. Best advice is to do as much research as you possibly can before you decide to begin.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

I'm glad to hear you have decided to wait! The risk of permanente damage goes up exponentially the younger you decide to try aas. When someone is your age they are at the max of their natural test production & if one were to shut that production down by using hormones your hypothalamic testicular pituitary axis (HTPA) may never fully recover.

Yes the media makes them out to be more evil than they are in reality BUT the younger you are when you start the more damage that can be done.

[HawaiianPride.]

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv

[smalltime7]

i watched bigger faster stronger last night and wow what an eye opener. you should watch this its on you tube

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Its a decent flick. But they are not "model" AAS users. One brother is debating hiding it from his wife after saying he will stop and the other brother is just short of crazy!

However if you have not seen it it is a must see.

[j.daddy]

I would say that aas are potentially dangerous. Ignorance in cycling is extremely dangerous. When people jump into a cycle thinking they can take a magic pill or shot and wake up looking like Jay Cutler they can do permenent damage to their bodies. When it comes to using steroids it's like G.I. Joe said knowing is half the battle.

[oak2429]

and the one brother died

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

I would say that aas are potentially dangerous. Ignorance in cycling is extremely dangerous. When people jump into a cycle thinking they can take a magic pill or shot and wake up looking like Jay Cutler they can do permenent damage to their bodies. When it comes to using steroids it's like G.I. Joe said knowing is half the battle.

Try telling that to some of these 21 and 22 year olds that think they actually know something.

[Dont wanna be old]

It is no more dangerous than Alcohol or Sex .
Done with safety in mind , it can be rewarding and satisfying .
AAS is used for real medical purposes .

[PistolStarta]

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv

lol only anti-steroid doctor says himself you can't prove steroids ever cause death.

[HawaiianPride.]

Haha, yep.

[Dont wanna be old]

Only proven side effect from steroids is they can lead to a political career .

[themoreyouknow]

no, unless you abuse them...just like anything else.
Watch bigger stronger faster..its good shit

[PistolStarta]

Haha, yep.

Also I love the doctor telling me steroids raise cholesterol so they have to kill people at some point is a fatass.

[BIGB]

Well they are dangerous and can cause life long hardship, the thing people always forget about is not oh no i can't have kids or lack of sex drive those are low on the priority list what about the fact it messes with blood chemistry, cellular development, edocrine and exocrine systems, now you mess with all of these sure you may live forever or pass away young role the dice, the thing is steroid can't be clearly stated as a cause of death due to the fact it causes cellular changes to other organs so you died of heart disease, or liver failure, and everyone states well he must of had this or that and thats bullshit i know one guy 28 heart attack another 33 two heart attacks dead, another had one at work heart attack 38 all AAS users young and healthy and no not retards or what ever else you will say or family history. the thing about aas use is it will never be linked to death because it is never the killer its the organ or sometimes organs that shut down.

[Atomini]

My problem with Bigger, Stronger, Faster is that it's created this sentiment that it's A-ok to go do steroids. No it's not.

Do you realize how many people watched Bigger, Stronger, Faster and decided to immediately start working out, and then 3 months after working out they started using AAS?

I NEVER reccomend ANYONE who is a newcomer to the steroid world to watch Bigger, Stronger, Faster. The first place I point them at are medical studies, and BOOKS. Bigger, Stronger, Faster was an OK movie. Yes, it was a MOVIE, not a proper documentary. You could call it a docudrama if you will, but I do believe that movie caused more problems than it solved.

Think about it, how many people who are inexperienced with phsyical fitness and weight training in general, once they saw that movie, were impressioned by it and decided immediately "holy crap, that documentary says steroids are OK as long as i'm not a kid", and immediately jumped on a cycle with minimal prior research?

I know 3 people who have done so.

[warchild]

Well they are dangerous and can cause life long hardship, the thing people always forget about is not oh no i can't have kids or lack of sex drive those are low on the priority list what about the fact it messes with blood chemistry, cellular development, edocrine and exocrine systems, now you mess with all of these sure you may live forever or pass away young role the dice, the thing is steroid can't be clearly stated as a cause of death due to the fact it causes cellular changes to other organs so you died of heart disease, or liver failure, and everyone states well he must of had this or that and thats bullshit i know one guy 28 heart attack another 33 two heart attacks dead, another had one at work heart attack 38 all AAS users young and healthy and no not retards or what ever else you will say or family history. the thing about aas use is it will never be linked to death because it is never the killer its the organ or sometimes organs that shut down.

ive known a young guy 33 that died of chf. he was huge and abused steroids, maybe this is where we say use vs abuse comes into play.

[ScotchGuard02]

I think the biggest challenge to AAS users is NOT the AAS. It's the emotional discipline necessary to cycle properly, PCT, rest, diet, and wait some more until their blood work returns to normal before the next cycle. The AAS seems so magical, so satisfying it's very difficult not to be on a constant cycle or do successive cycles too close together and mess yourself up. The AAS abuse is mental and emotional. I see over and over and over again experienced users on this board telling young guys not to cycle. Safety first. Then the young guys cycle anyway. They say, "Hey, nothing happed" Then, like drugs they're hooked on AAS and become a statistic of AAS abuse. I think AAS is like any other social drug, there are ALWAYS people who're going to abuse it. They become a statistic, the news wants to sell air time so they popularize it, the politicians who know nothing has to get in the act and make laws to "protect" the public, and the rest of the population who know less than anyone, villify AAS. LOL, that's my soapbox for the day. Going back to the orginal question, "is AAS dangerous?" My answer, "It depends"

[ebenezer howard]

I'm glad to hear you have decided to wait! The risk of permanente damage goes up exponentially the younger you decide to try aas. When someone is your age they are at the max of their natural test production & if one were to shut that production down by using hormones your hypothalamic testicular pituitary axis (HTPA) may never fully recover.

Yes the media makes them out to be more evil than they are in reality BUT the younger you are when you start the more damage that can be done.

thanx, thats wat i was after. btw your avatar sucks, haha.

[ebenezer howard]

http://www.steroidlaw.com/images/steroids_0002.wmv

thanx, a good watch.

[ebenezer howard]

i watched bigger faster stronger last night and wow what an eye opener. you should watch this its on you tube

i have seen it and tbh it was one of the factors that made me consider using.

[Atomini]

i have seen it and tbh it was one of the factors that made me consider using.

And this is exactly what I meant by my post.

To many, that film is THE factor. Not good in my opinion.

[Natureboy71]

The question is what is the line between use and abuse.

[Roman2]

Common sense ( which ain't so common sometimes) tells you that you should research any chemical you put in your body before you do so..... What it is, where it came from, and how sterile it is.

Steroids do have a bad rap because they are misunderstood by so many, and people tend to believe in rumors and misconceptions which circulates in the media.

Do your own research and make up your own mind is best before you ever put anything in your body. Don't rely on others to make up your mind for you.

[jojomcgo]

Its a decent flick. But they are not "model" AAS users. One brother is debating hiding it from his wife after saying he will stop and the other brother is just short of crazy!

However if you have not seen it it is a must see.

The crazy one your taling about is the one that ate the bottle of sleeping pills then chased it with a bottle of voda or some thing, i love that guy reminds me of myself