Is it morally wrong to accept money for administering street justice?

[40plusnewbie]

Like if u had an acquaintance, or a friend who had a friend and she got raped, or some small dude u vaguely knew got his ass beat bad for no reason by 2 big guys... would it be wrong to accept cash to administer payback?

(I'm not talking about accepting cash from family or very close friends for doing something like this, but from someone u don't know too well so you wouldn't be necessarily angry that it happened to 'him' or 'her' because u don't really know them even though u might detest the crime/violation in general and think it should happen to no one.

[DSM4Life]

Accepting cash would mean that person is admitting to the crime. I say don't take it.

[HitIt]

just remember if the other crime already happened then your street justice is really revenge...there is a difference between "justice" and "what is just"

[Dont wanna be old]

You would be a mercenary at that point .

I like the idea of the punisher .

The last resort is the administrator of faith and believing that such people will get there's .

Unfortunately I taught my kids not to cheat because it's wrong , not because cheaters never win , because they do .

The OP sounds like a individual in there forties that's tired of seeing everyday people being victims and a failed legal system .

Your lucky to not live in a area that brags snitches get stitches .
What a criminals heaven !

Making things right with extreme prejudice maybe the answer .

Get-em fortyplusnewie

[Hazard]

Essentially you'd be a hitman..... just without the killing lol. I wouldn't criticise a person for doing it but if yah get caught you're gunna be in some really big trouble.

~Haz~

[Dont wanna be old]

Essentially you'd be a hitman..... just without the killing lol. I wouldn't criticise a person for doing it but if yah get caught you're gunna be in some really big trouble.

~Haz~

He might be the police .

[Hazard]

He might be the police .

hmmmmm or possibly......



~Haz~

[Times Roman]

If you have to ask the question, then you probably already know the answer. Morals are very subjective. Evidently, in the middle east, if a woman is accused of adultry, it is she that is cast into the pit and stoned until dead. Their religion/society/morals seem to think it is OK.

Much of our "morals" here in western society flow from the good book. Not all societies subscribe to the same thing our good budy King james "created". (I know he didn't create it, more of a major rewrite.)

Just to show you how out of balance our morals, let me illustrate a point....

It is morally OK to put your dog down if it is suffering. But....

It is NOT OK to give gramma a bunch of sedatives so she can go peacefully when she is riddled with cancer and suffering excruciationg pain.

[stiflersmom]

If you like the thought of prison then sure have at it.

[ReX357]

I'll tell you what. I've learned a long time ago not to fight for anyone else than yourself and your family. You're always only getting one side of the story. Remember, there's 2 sides to every story.

[MaNiCC]

If you dont get caught and its not traced back to you why not?

[Times Roman]

I'll tell you what. I've learned a long time ago not to fight for anyone else than yourself and your family. You're always only getting one side of the story. Remember, there's 2 sides to every story.

my buddy got his asss kicked at a bar a year ago ( i wasn't there). he had his buddy there with him. a guy cold cocked him out in the parking lot, evidently. when I asked what happened, he said he didn't have a clue.

Later on, I found out my buddy was really lit, and getting very mouthy to this other dude's woman.

I agree. Usually, there is two sides to the story. Very seldom does it come out of no where. Only exception I can really think of is when I was back in school, the bullies were always on my asss just because they had their own issues that had nothing to do with me, and I was an easy target.

[40plusnewbie]

I would never go off half ass and just accept someone's story and do something. But investigating such matters requires a lot of time, patience, and ******* so u can be confident u have the right story, the perp did a major f up, and u also didn't reveal yourself as part of your investigating the story/situation. And if the person has a documented history of similar crimes (which is search able on the internet- anonymously if u use TOR) it can lend even more credence to the story. And if there are several witnesses, well that basically seals the deal (in a court of law no one would EVER get off if several witnesses testified to seeing some person committing a certain crime).

And yes, I have no faith in the system. I protect me, my famly, friends, and posessions. I have also had someone b & e my house in the middle of the night, not to say hello, but to steal my stuff while weilding a very large knife. This person had previously spent time n prison on TWO separate occasions for stabbing the home owner under very similar circumstances. My case: He get's probation (sure he was doing some volunteer work with the elderly or something but this was a ploy after the crime to try to make himself look good in court).

I no longer have patience for someone getting an unfair beat down, or especially worse, like raped. But I"m also not stupid. I know the 4 elements of committing the perfect crime:

1. do it alone
2. tell no one
3. be seen by no one
4. leave no tracks

Simple as that (well 4 isn't simple) and u can get away with anything, and it's not like I'm exactly talking about trying to rob people or do random people harm.

[Times Roman]

I would never go off half ass and just accept someone's story and do something. But investigating such matters requires a lot of time, patience, and ******* so u can be confident u have the right story, the perp did a major f up, and u also didn't reveal yourself as part of your investigating the story/situation. And if the person has a documented history of similar crimes (which is search able on the internet- anonymously if u use TOR) it can lend even more credence to the story. And if there are several witnesses, well that basically seals the deal (in a court of law no one would EVER get off if several witnesses testified to seeing some person committing a certain crime).

And yes, I have no faith in the system. I protect me, my famly, friends, and posessions. I have also had someone b & e my house in the middle of the night, not to say hello, but to steal my stuff while weilding a very large knife. This person had previously spent time n prison on TWO separate occasions for stabbing the home owner under very similar circumstances. My case: He get's probation (sure he was doing some volunteer work with the elderly or something but this was a ploy after the crime to try to make himself look good in court).

I no longer have patience for someone getting an unfair beat down, or especially worse, like raped. But I"m also not stupid. I know the 4 elements of committing the perfect crime:

1. do it alone
2. tell no one
3. be seen by no one
4. leave no tracks

Simple as that (well 4 isn't simple) and u can get away with anything, and it's not like I'm exactly talking about trying to rob people or do random people harm.

Hey wait! I was watching on CSI or something that ALL crimes leave tracks! If it's on TV, it's gotta be true, right?

[40plusnewbie]

Hey wait! I was watching on CSI or something that ALL crimes leave tracks! If it's on TV, it's gotta be true, right?

lol, tv is my religion, whatever it says I believe. Seriously though it is getting more difficult to 'not leave tracks' but then again LE has limited resources. Hell they often don't even dust for finger prints after a car gets stolen. When there is a murder or rape they pull out the $ to look at DNA but not for someone getting the living shizat beat out of them.

[SomeRandomGuy]

lol, tv is my religion, whatever it says I believe. Seriously though it is getting more difficult to 'not leave tracks' but then again LE has limited resources. Hell they often don't even dust for finger prints after a car gets stolen. When there is a murder or rape they pull out the $ to look at DNA but not for someone getting the living shizat beat out of them.

Possibly because they administer enough beatings to find them commonplace.

[40plusnewbie]

Possibly because they administer enough beatings to find them commonplace.

Makes perfect sense to me. Note to self: Always administer street justice in a means that seems commonplace.

[Twist]

I would never go off half ass and just accept someone's story and do something. But investigating such matters requires a lot of time, patience, and ******* so u can be confident u have the right story, the perp did a major f up, and u also didn't reveal yourself as part of your investigating the story/situation. And if the person has a documented history of similar crimes (which is search able on the internet- anonymously if u use TOR) it can lend even more credence to the story. And if there are several witnesses, well that basically seals the deal (in a court of law no one would EVER get off if several witnesses testified to seeing some person committing a certain crime).

And yes, I have no faith in the system. I protect me, my famly, friends, and posessions. I have also had someone b & e my house in the middle of the night, not to say hello, but to steal my stuff while weilding a very large knife. This person had previously spent time n prison on TWO separate occasions for stabbing the home owner under very similar circumstances. My case: He get's probation (sure he was doing some volunteer work with the elderly or something but this was a ploy after the crime to try to make himself look good in court).

I no longer have patience for someone getting an unfair beat down, or especially worse, like raped. But I"m also not stupid. I know the 4 elements of committing the perfect crime:

1. do it alone
2. tell no one
3. be seen by no one
4. leave no tracks

Simple as that (well 4 isn't simple) and u can get away with anything, and it's not like I'm exactly talking about trying to rob people or do random people harm.

lol, tv is my religion, whatever it says I believe. Seriously though it is getting more difficult to 'not leave tracks' but then again LE has limited resources. Hell they often don't even dust for finger prints after a car gets stolen. When there is a murder or rape they pull out the $ to look at DNA but not for someone getting the living shizat beat out of them.

The fact that you are planning on leaving them alive, and the very presence of this thread, mean you are already breaking Rules 2-4. Depending on the crime, and the money paid to you, I would do it. But I would NEVER write about it on the internet...

[Friend]

Lame.

[lovbyts]

I would never do it. As said only fight for yourself. I always see re runs on TV of prison stuff, people with life in prison. One guy said he though he was delivering justice. A relative of his told him her husband was molesting their daughter and she needed his help. She eventually talked him into killing her husband.

It turns out it was just a divorce custody dispute and nothing was happening to the daughter so the guy killed him for nothing and is now spending the rest of his life in jail.

Never assume you know what is going on. I am surprised so many people fall for this exact one also when it's common knowledge that accusing the ex of abuse or sexual misconduct is a typical ploy by MOST women in divorce.

If you want to become a hit man then doing try to justify it to make yourself feel better.

[Knockout_Power]

I would say dont take the money and do it cause its right.

But thats just me

[V-ROID]

Do it for free and do it often. Don't post it here.
Please delete thread for betterment of the community.
Good luck and thanks for helping.

[Leatherface]

I would say dont take the money and do it cause its right.

But thats just me

Yea that

errr except for the part of "taking" the money...you should NEVER accept money for doing whats right...Donations are another matter entirely

[40plusnewbie]

I would say dont take the money and do it cause its right.

But thats just me

This was gonna be my follow-up question to people who said "no, it's wrong". Would they think it's OK to pulverize a child molester to put the fear of death in him and promise him he will not live if he touches another kid. Done for free, is This wrong?

[40plusnewbie]

Do it for free and do it often. Don't post it here.
Please delete thread for betterment of the community.
Good luck and thanks for helping.

How do I delete a thread?

[morty]

Are you a 40plusnewbie or a 15plusnewbie. I find it hard to believe that you are an adult.
Please tell us your real age

[Atomini]

You'd just end up being a leg breaker.

Better ways to make money.

Join Blackwater USA.

[lovbyts]

How do I delete a thread?

Even if you delete it once it's put out there on the web there is always a digital signature of it. The only redeeming miracle for most of us is a Nuclear war at some point in the future or a few well positioned E-bombs

[morty]

Looks like you were banned from Chemical Mass for posting shit like this all the time. You start talking about crime activity in a forum and you will get banned fast

[Twist]

Wait weren't you the one talking about robbing an hgh truck or something

[lovbyts]

Wait weren't you the one talking about robbing an hgh truck or something

Well if that is the case and one gets hijacked anytime in the near future you know what you need to do to keep us all quite dont you? When the time comes I will PM you with my mailing address.

[MaNiCC]

Well if that is the case and one gets hijacked anytime in the near future you know what you need to do to keep us all quite dont you? When the time comes I will PM you with my mailing address.

...x2

[Nooomoto]

You'd just end up being a leg breaker.

Better ways to make money.

Join Blackwater USA.

There is no more Blackwater. It is now Xe Company

[Dukkit]

been there. done that. i kept the dudes teeth as trophy.

dont believe me? ask him

[40plusnewbie]

Looks like you were banned from Chemical Mass for posting shit like this all the time. You start talking about crime activity in a forum and you will get banned fast

NOT TRUE. I got banned at chemical mass for, presumably, what I wrote HERE. I joined under a different name and went to a thread I started there about contemplating a heavy cycle. Most of the way through the thread is fine, then someone mentions "He got banned because he took money for beating people up" (which is not true, this thread here is a hypothetical) and second of all I never posted anything about violence at all at CM. So I played like I was a new member and asked if someone could post a link to the thread where this guy says he took money for beating people up and then the thread goes bizerk with like 4-5 guys talking bs and totally ignoring my question.

So there are liers at CM. Am i going to get banned from some site because of some political discussion i have in my grannies basement if someone here happens to hear about it?

I said nothing of violence over there, and especially not having taken money for it because I have never done that. Ever.

Go read the thread yourself, it's in anabolics or cycles or something titled something like contemplating heavy cycle.

[V8Assassin]

I'm late on this one, but please allow me to respond by asking this question. Are you morally against anal rape? I only ask cause you will be avoiding it in the prison showers if you decide to take up this course of action. The law allows for us to defend ourselves and our families from immediate danger. It takes special exception to taking the law into your own hands and stalking someone down for revenge.

[40plusnewbie]

I'm late on this one, but please allow me to respond by asking this question. Are you morally against anal rape? I only ask cause you will be avoiding it in the prison showers if you decide to take up this course of action. The law allows for us to defend ourselves and our families from immediate danger. It takes special exception to taking the law into your own hands and stalking someone down for revenge.

Why don't you worry about the lair's and character defamers over at CM then ask me a question. And it case you missed it, the title of the thread is : Is it morally wrong to.....


Not I want to... or anything of that nature.

Now all u guys who are also members of CM go show me the threads where I constantly talked about violence over there and "Took money for beating people up".

[40plusnewbie]

I must say, one thing I have come to be fond of is the ignore button. Just my guess, but about 95% who wind up on it are immature and under 25.

[40plusnewbie]

Looks like you were banned from Chemical Mass for posting shit like this all the time. You start talking about crime activity in a forum and you will get banned fast

Morty, since u are accusing me of doing this personally I am calling you out to show me posts made "all the time" about such matters of violence and criminal activity at CM. If u can't ur just a gossiper at best and a conspirator at worst.

If he does do this (which he can't because the posts don't exist there) someone please quote them for me because I choose to ignore people like this.

[Knockout_Power]

been there. done that. i kept the dudes teeth as trophy.

dont believe me? ask him

man, I only stole one chocolate bar... you took 5 teeth... bastid!!!