HCG Protocol for on cycle

[monkeyman33]

Hi Guys. Have not been here in a few years, so it has been a while. To the point, I have been on test propionate at 550mg's/week for 18 months now straight, and I want my boys to come back to life. I have a lot of HCG that I have had sitting around, but have not taken because I am worried about Gyno and Acne. Anyways, I am staying on the test prop. for I have enough for another year, but have been searching on protocols for running the HCG while on cycle.

I found the sticky at the top and it says 250iu's 2-3x/week, but my friend says 5000iu's for 2 weeks straight and than go off of it for a few months. What is the consensus for my particular situation? Remember, I just want to get my boys big again while staying on the prop. while limiting the chance of gyno from too much HCG, thanks.

[baseline_9]

Why have you been on prop for 18months at 550 a week

That is not a cycle bro

[monkeyman33]

Yeah it is not a cycle I know that lol. I have been going the route of staying on for a long period of time because of competing and whatnot. All I want is some help with the HCG dosage thats all.

[baseline_9]

Once they are up and workin 250IU twice a week would be ok but its the getting them up and working that im not sure about

I would think you may need to kick start them with a higher dose.....

A complete guess but maybe 500IU EOD for 20 days....

Read the HCG threads in the PCT section,

[monkeyman33]

thanks for some input. I will wait and see what others have to say also!

[baseline_9]

Swifto is the man with the answers


In the mean time....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...back-after-TRT

[monkeyman33]

That is some good information! I also found the thread below.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?444465-Hcg

[monkeyman33]

I am thinking maybe the following regimen below. What do you think?

Weeks 1-3

500IU's/ED

Weeks 4 and on

250IU's/EOD

OR

Weeks 1-3

500IU's/ED

Weeks 4 and on

250IU's/ 2 x Week

[monkeyman33]

bump for some more opinions

[stevey_6t9]

your testes will be desensitized to hcg after months of being on, so you need alot higher doses then your thinking, though im of no position to advise you on them.

[monkeyman33]

Maybe 1000 IU's ED for the first week and then 500 IU's ED for the second and third week?

[Sicko]

that is frikkin crazy.....
Swifto has a thread with Aggressive pct that is probably what you will need to kickstart those fellas..

[monkeyman33]

Yeah I have read several of his threads now. I am now thinking maybe the below.


Weeks 1

1000 IU's/ED

Weeks 2-3

500 IU's/ED

Weeks 4 - On

250 IU's/2x Week

[monkeyman33]

Will the 1000 IU's ED for the first week be overkill or could I get away with 500? Anybody welcome to chime in.....

[Swifto]

your testes will be desensitized to hcg after months of being on, so you need alot higher doses then your thinking, though im of no position to advise you on them.

Not "desensitised to HCG" per se, because he hasnt been using HCG. But his testes have become unresponsive. I know what you were trying to say though.

I'd go with

500ius/ED for 21 days + Aromasin 10mg/EOD, then 250ius 2x week there after. Dont stay on 250ius 2x week without taking a 2-3 weeks break after 10-12 weeks of use.

[stevey_6t9]

Not "desensitised to HCG" per se, because he hasnt been using HCG. But his testes have become unresponsive. I know what you were trying to say though.

I'd go with

500ius/ED for 21 days + Aromasin 10mg/EOD, then 250ius 2x week there after. Dont stay on 250ius 2x week without taking a 2-3 weeks break after 10-12 weeks of use.

GnRH-hCG same same lol

[monkeyman33]

Thanks Swifto and stevey! I will do that and take 10mg of tamoxifen ED since that is what I have on hand right now. That should clear up any issues of potential gyno. Finally, I have a plan to get my boys back and make the girls happy lol!

[monkeyman33]

So the below is my final plan.

Weeks 1 - 3

500 IU's/ED
10mg's Nolva/ED

Weeks 4 - 12

250 IU's/2x week
10mg's Nolva/ED

Weeks 13 - 16

OFF HCG & Nolvadex

[F-Genetics]

I have been reading alot on PCT. From what I have been reading about longer cycles you may need to Frontload your HCG to about 3000 I.U.'s for your first 2 shots, then down to 1500 I.U.'s for your next 2, and about 500 I.U.'s EOD for 2 weeks. Don't forget your Nolvadex might want to be a bit higher like 20 mgs ED while you are on the HCG. Also when you come off the HCG you need about 6 or 7 days to get it out of your system and avoid inhibition of Nolvadex and or Clomid therapy. But take the Nolva @ 20 mgs up until you start the Clomid. It will help with the estrogen imbalance and hopefully keep it in check. Check this against other PCT's it seems a tad more aggressive, but then again you have been on for a long time. And If I were you I would definitely get some blood work about 2 months into your PCT to see what your HPTA levels are at. That should tell you how much more PCT you will need to get back to normal.. But definitely do some reading...
-Good Luck

[ithunk]

Hi Guys. Have not been here in a few years, so it has been a while. To the point, I have been on test propionate at 550mg's/week for 18 months now straight, and I want my boys to come back to life. I have a lot of HCG that I have had sitting around, but have not taken because I am worried about Gyno and Acne. Anyways, I am staying on the test prop. for I have enough for another year, but have been searching on protocols for running the HCG while on cycle.

I found the sticky at the top and it says 250iu's 2-3x/week, but my friend says 5000iu's for 2 weeks straight and than go off of it for a few months. What is the consensus for my particular situation? Remember, I just want to get my boys big again while staying on the prop. while limiting the chance of gyno from too much HCG, thanks.

well i think once u are on you are on...so jus live with it

[ithunk]

Why have you been on prop for 18months at 550 a week

That is not a cycle bro

i wouldnt be surprised..

[ithunk]

your testes will be desensitized to hcg after months of being on, so you need alot higher doses then your thinking, though im of no position to advise you on them.

great so now more drugs...