Talk me back in to it please!!!

[WallyWorld637]

I need a push. I started HRT about 2004 and was doing great. As the years went by my Doc started showing his true colors and he about killed me literally. After seeing him for some stomach pain, he gave me some probiotics and told me I had IBS (mind you he never examined me at all, no tests no nothing. He just asked me what was going on and that's how he based his conclusion). A week later I took it upon myself to go to a specialist and he rushed me into surgery. I had 2 instances where I had to call 911 do to sever pain after injections of my test. I struggled every time I had to take an injections. It would take me 30 min to get the courage up to do it. I was never shown how to give myself an injection and I guess that's my fault for not speaking up and saying something to him. I figured I had watch him give me shots and being that my meds came to me in the syringe ready to go then no big deal. I have been off HRT for 3 years now and I feel like crap. I want to start back up but I don't want to experience that pain again plus I need a doc that's worried about making me better not pad his pockets. My insurance covers my therapy but now I have to search for a new doc that knows what he is doing.

[SlimmerMe]

WELCOME BACK!..just to be clear...are you relating the HRT to the stomach pain/ problems at all? or are they 2 entirely different and separate situations...

[forrest_and_trees]

Well it sounds like you've already talked yourself into it but incidentally, what did the stomach pain turn out to be and was it related to the injections? i.e. Did the steroids aggravate your condition? Why were your injections so painful? What type of needle were you using and where were you injecting it? Why were you on HRT to begin with?

All in all it sure sounds like you're doc is a tool. I can't imagine not showing you how to properly inject yourself. Was this at an anti aging clinic?

Mind you, if you get back on to it, it's more than a simple injection. If you read around here you'll find it becomes a way of life and you have a number of things to contend with but the good news is, if you put in the time and effort to learn the stuff and stick with it, you can be happy and healthy again.

Best of luck.

[WallyWorld637]

The stomach pain had nothin to do with my HRT, it was a bad gallbladder. The doc was my primary that focuses on HRT. I had blood work done and he said my levels were low but he gives everybody Test. Now my new primary doc checked my blood and he will not give me HRT. He says I don't need it. I want to go to a doc that specializes in HRT. I was taking 100mg twice a week in the shoulders.

[MACHINE5150]

i think there are online docs that do it now.. google online TRT and online HRT .. maximus hrt is one that i heard is good.. i think you mail them your blood and then they give you a prescription over the internet.. and insurance covers it..

[forrest_and_trees]

What were the results of your blood work? As for injection site, your quad is a much better location. Easier to inject and virtually painless if done right. I'd say about 80% here who self inject use their quad and most of the others use their glutes. Needle size and gauge is extremely important too. You want to use a 25 gauge 1 inch needle. It makes *all* the difference.

Machine is right, there are lots of HRT clinics out there, in fact I believe some of the more well known ones are there in Florida. Maybe someone will chime in. You can also try searching this forum for, "Clinics in Florida". Once you get hooked up with someone, I'm sure they'll show you the proper way to administer a self injection.

[zaggahamma]

u must have had a serious scare to be off trt after going on and feeling great...

find yourself a good doctor...what was this tools reason you dont need it now? do u have any recent bloodwork? any old bloodwork before and/or after you were on test?

[Far from massive]

For all those out there who are concerned with injection techniques. You are already on the internet, just google intramuscular injection techinques and you will find a ton of them put up by nurse training clinics etc. While there is a ton of great AAS specific information here, like warming the AAS and moving the plunger slowly you know the old adage a picture is worth a thousand words so a movie must be worth a million.

[zaggahamma]

For all those out there who are concerned with injection techniques. You are already on the internet, just google intramuscular injection techinques and you will find a ton of them put up by nurse training clinics etc. While there is a ton of great AAS specific information here, like warming the AAS and moving the plunger slowly you know the old adage a picture is worth a thousand words so a movie must be worth a million.

whos the picture and whos the movie cuz i've never fvcking seen a nurse aspirate

[FTLdude]

whos the picture and whos the movie cuz i've never fvcking seen a nurse aspirate

Depends. They teach aspiration in the textbooks because newbie clinicians don't yet have the A&P down when it comes to location of the vessels and nerves. You are correct. In real life clinical situations, most experienced doctors and nurses don't bother to aspirate. Most adult intramuscular injections are given in the delts lateral to the acromion and about three finger breadths down, not just anywhere in the delt; and, not just anywhere in the butt cheeks, but in the hip area between the glute max and the glute med---using fingering technique and the bones as anatomical landmarks, that's basically how they determine the ideal spot to stick the needle. In these areas, one is least likely to stick a nerve, and the blood vessels that pass through are very,very small so trauma caused by the needle going through one of them is negligible. If injecting yourself just anywhere in the butt (which some guys do) and with anything longer than a 5/8" needle then the possibility of hitting a vessel isn't the only thing to think about. The sciatic nerve runs right through there as well.

[zaggahamma]

Depends. They teach aspiration in the textbooks because newbie clinicians don't yet have the A&P down when it comes to location of the vessels and nerves. You are correct. In real life clinical situations, most experienced doctors and nurses don't bother to aspirate. Most adult intramuscular injections are given in the delts lateral to the acromion and about three finger breadths down, not just anywhere in the delt; and, not just anywhere in the butt cheeks, but in the hip area between the glute max and the glute med---using fingering technique and the bones as anatomical landmarks, that's basically how they determine the ideal spot to stick the needle. In these areas, one is least likely to stick a nerve, and the blood vessels that pass through are very,very small so trauma caused by the needle going through one of them is negligible. If injecting yourself just anywhere in the butt (which some guys do) and with anything longer than a 5/8" needle then the possibility of hitting a vessel isn't the only thing to think about. The sciatic nerve runs right through there as well.

good post

[FTLdude]

The stomach pain had nothin to do with my HRT, it was a bad gallbladder. The doc was my primary that focuses on HRT. I had blood work done and he said my levels were low but he gives everybody Test. Now my new primary doc checked my blood and he will not give me HRT. He says I don't need it. I want to go to a doc that specializes in HRT. I was taking 100mg twice a week in the shoulders.

Do what others have suggested and find an HRT clinic. There are many of these in Florida. Regarding the injections, can't imagine what type of doctor this is who sends a patient home to do self injections without any teaching on how to do it. Worse still, sent you home with severe abdominal pain on probiotics. No examination, no tests, no ref for a GI workup or anything. Wow! Guess he had a lot more patients in the waiting room to get through to make quota for the day, so... Apart from the HRT stuff, you seriously need a new GP.

Next time try using an insulin syringe, dart the needle in quickly rather than pinning it slowly, and inject the test real slow. Also consider rotating injection sites.