Opinion needed!

[bbradford42]

I have read countless posts on when to start Nolva and everyone seems to have a different opinion. When I read the post bellow it seemed to be the most sensible (especially for me starting my first cycle in a few weeks). The question is, at what mg do you suggest using Nolva throughout (20mg?) and do I stop on the last injection day or run it for a few extra weeks?

For my first time I will be running:
Test E 6 weeks @ 250mg
Nolva ? weeks @ ? mg


I'm trying to keep my first cycle short and simple so I can get an idea on the effects it will have on my body before super stacking.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Quote Originally Posted by Stacker3

I have to agree with you on the running Nolva throughout! I am pretty much a newb to the boards here, but I have posted and done research with many european AAS users. Thier whole philosophy is much different that what they quote as "the american quick gain approach consisting of gross overeating packin in large anount of carbs to cram as much muscle as possible on cycles averaging 12 - 18 weeks" Sorry I can't remember which forum I remembered this quote from but anyway....

The advice I received was run your Nolva from day one of your cycle and in most cases PCT is seldom needed or used much more than a week to 2 weeks after a cycle. My readings and commnucation with overseas steroid users generally "not in all cases of course" experience little to absolutely no side effects or even crashing for that matter due to the fact that:

1 They believe that cycles should be run shorter 6-8 weeks. This allows a user to actually get more cycles in yearly but in a less harsh "progressionary growth model"

2. Therefore recovery time is much less after cycles and natural hormonal levels are placed in balance at a much quicker rate. The Nolva throughout cycles aids in this just as BigBobb noted for the simple fact that you are blocking estrogen production steadily vs trying to counteract the mass production that follows an abundance of testosterone production.

My last cycle I ran just as BigBobb, stacked Test Cyp, Human Grade stano for 8 weeks (4 at start 4 to finish) and primoject with BD primobol for 12 weeks total. I had no side effects, no loss of sex drive, and so far have kept all my gains and feel great! My cycle ended just under 4 weeks ago. So according the the chart which states 18 days to start PCT from test in a cycle, I suggest you try this approach on your next cycle and see how it works out.

Sure everyone is different, but if you don't try you'll never know and hey if it can practically eliminate side effects and you run shorter cycles but keep gains and take recover time to practically 1 week off cycle might be worth a shot. JMO

Oh... sorry if my post is a little hard to follow, I have been a workaholic and am running on 0 hours of sleep in 2 days! Bad! Bad! Bad! body builder - I know LOL

Be good!

Stacka (raised to the 3rd)

[bbradford42]

If stats are needed:
Age 24
Weight 220lbs
BF 18%
Training on and off since I was 15, recently 6 months straight. I'm tired of slow ass results, ready to take it to the next level.
My Diet is Awesome... Lots of meat and greens very little fat,
Supplements - protein shakes, Kre-alkaline, Natural HGH, Tribulus and L-arginine

I'm very interested in knowing if anyone has done a cycle similar. (Using Nolva from start to finish)