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    First Cycle Question

    Hey everyone I am new to this forum and have a few questions. I am thinking about starting my first cycle within the next few months. I have been lifting and dieting seriously since I was 15 and currently 6'1 215lbs. I am thinking about doing 12 weeks of test at a low dose (probably 250mg twice a week), but I have a concern that I was hoping someone could help me with. I was told by my doctor a few years back that I have what is known as vaso vagel episodes (aka I tend to faint every once in a while). This is not something that happens often, but it does occur at times when my body is depleted (example: stomach virus) and if I consume a large amount of caffeine (which I now avoid altogether). I havent had an episode in a few years since I looked further into this. I also asked my doctor about taking steroids and he said I may experience sides, but nothing out of the ordinary.

    So basically what I am looking for is some feedback to whether or not this may be affected or if anyone has had experiences with fainting and dizziness. I have done a lot of research and I know its person depending, but I have not heard of many people saying dizziness and fainting were side effects.

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    I am almost 21 I wouldnt be starting for a few months so Ill be 21 by the time the cycle comes around.
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    pct nolva at either 30 or 40 mg I was going to talk to people on here to get this down for sure
    goals: try to keep a lean bulk if I can and hopefully gain around 15 solid pounds

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    to advice you to usa aas at 21 i would be doing you no favors, you would be risking damage to your still developing endocrine system. the endocrine system is usually safley matured at 25, so up util then it's advised that you use diet and training to achieve your gains.

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    I appreciate your concern and I am aware of this. However, I am not looking for advise depending on my age I am looking for advice based on the condition my doctor says I have. Do you know if dizziness and fainting are side effects people often experience?

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    your doctor doedn't have your best interest at heart if he knows you want to use aas and your not even 21 and didnt discourage you.
    get a new doctor!
    Last edited by MBMETC; 11-05-2010 at 01:22 PM.

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    He said he doesn't recommend it but at the same time he knows that I am going to do it if I want to. Thats the same thing any doctor would say. You arent being helpful at all so please stop replying if you arent going to answer my original question.

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    few more years bud keep lifting and dieting want get any help here as you are too young

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    I think thats sad that no one will help and everyone complains about younger guys abusing/not using correctly. You guys should realize people are going to do things no matter what you say and you should be willing to help out so its done the safest way possible.

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    Maybe bodybuilding.com would be better suited for your needs.
    I'm sorry if you didn't get the answers you wanted to hear, but people here are trying to advise you about safety, and you should research Endocrine development in people under the age of 25.





    Quote Originally Posted by holdyahead View Post
    I think thats sad that no one will help and everyone complains about younger guys abusing/not using correctly. You guys should realize people are going to do things no matter what you say and you should be willing to help out so its done the safest way possible.

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    The safest way possible is for you not to do them, which is all the advice you are going to get here. Like it has been previously posted, doing AAS now will only cause you damage and possibly permanent and irreversible damage at that. No one here is going to contribute to your poor and detrimental decision. The best advice for you is nutrition/diet, and training until you reach your own natural potential.

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    Your question is impossible to answer as well, as it is too vague. Fainting and dizziness can be caused by a myriad of things, and it would be impossible to make a diagnosis as to whether or not training and or any supplement would cause you these symptoms, especially with regards to any relation to your diagnosed condition. If you have ever done a heavy routine at the squat rack, you have probably felt some dizziness, same for being above 14,000 feet without oxygen, you will experience dizziness. My point is your question is impossible to answer, and the answer you are looking for here isn't going to happen. You are getting the best advice, which is to not do them.

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    There is a reason you haven't heard of these as side effects, but test flu is real and brings flu like symptoms makeing eating a problem which would deplete you and if that is gonna cause you to have an episode more the reason to stay off aas, aside from your age.
    Did you ever hear a doctor say you'll outgrow it, maybe as your hpta or endocrine system mature you will out grow this
    Pleas hold off on cycling till you fully mature around 25 years old, evaluate you condition and then maybe consider a cycle.
    Last edited by MBMETC; 11-05-2010 at 06:26 PM.

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    Thanks guys. After reading this and another post that was just put up I may wait. I have the itch bad, but even if I hold off for a few years I think it may be a better decision that starting now and regretting it. At least that was Im trying to tell myself. Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdyahead View Post
    Thanks guys. After reading this and another post that was just put up I may wait. I have the itch bad, but even if I hold off for a few years I think it may be a better decision that starting now and regretting it. At least that was Im trying to tell myself. Thanks again
    Good decision use this time to build a strong diet and workout program and in a couple of years who knows maybe you will Be happy enough with your progress you may stay natural.
    Good luck and feel free to use the diet and training section

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