Needing a second set of eyes on my diet/routine for future AAS

[TheMemoryRemains]

Age: 25
Height: 6'0''
Weight: 175
BF%: 10
Cycle Exp: None - Future
PCT Knowledge: Will be taking Tamox(Nolvadex) at 20-40mgs ED.
Training Exp: 16 months
Diet: Below

I just went for a physical and I am in great health and my plates are done growing so it aimed me towards starting a cycle, a cycle I will be starting in the future once I get my diet/excerise pin point.

Diet:
300gs Protien/400gs Carbs/150gs Fats Daily.
50/40/30 split throughout 6 meals

Supplements:
Whey protien - stacked
MK3 weight gainer - stacked
Fish oil
multivitamins

Excerise:
3-4 day program
Day 1 -chest/biceps
Day 2 -shouders/triceps
Day 3 -back/traps
1 day of cardio

Goals:
8% or lower BF
185-200lbs

[Skyler]

You need more training naturally to build a better foundation. I would personally recommend more carbs. Get as much of your nutrition intake from real food, not shakes. I am curious as to why you don't train legs?

[TheMemoryRemains]

You need more training naturally to build a better foundation. I would personally recommend more carbs. Get as much of your nutrition intake from real food, not shakes. I am curious as to why you don't train legs?

More carbs, what are you suggest uping it daily in grams?
As weird as it sounds, I've always had powerful cut legs even without leg training just from the short amount of cardo I do.
(Going to put some time and effort into a leg plan now, any suggestions on that aswell?)

[Skyler]

Compound movement give you the most out of a leg workout. Plus when you do heavy deadlift, squat, etc., it puts a lot of strain on your CNS and triggers your body to produce more natural testosterone and growth hormone. The body naturally tries to stay somewhat proportioned as well, so lagging on leg training will make your upper body suffer.
I think a good rule of thumb for carbs is to take total grams of protein and multiply by 1.5 to 2, and that's where your carbs need to be.
I don't think you are ready for AAS. With your limited time in the gym, and no real leg training, your tendons are not as strong as they need to be. You need to build more natural foundation or you are going to be prone to injury on cycle, and won't keep as much of your gains post cycle.

[TheMemoryRemains]

Compound movement give you the most out of a leg workout. Plus when you do heavy deadlift, squat, etc., it puts a lot of strain on your CNS and triggers your body to produce more natural testosterone and growth hormone. The body naturally tries to stay somewhat proportioned as well, so lagging on leg training will make your upper body suffer.
I think a good rule of thumb for carbs is to take total grams of protein and multiply by 1.5 to 2, and that's where your carbs need to be.
I don't think you are ready for AAS. With your limited time in the gym, and no real leg training, your tendons are not as strong as they need to be. You need to build more natural foundation or you are going to be prone to injury on cycle, and won't keep as much of your gains post cycle.

Theres alot of key points in here that I never knew and will help me in the long run, I will definitly be adding legs to my routine.
Upping my calories and leg trainer is what I need to work on and that will be added in my lifestyle before I touch any aas.
I am here to learn from the pro's and not to hurt myself during or after cycle if I were to begin one.

What are some good leg excerises I should begin at?

[TheMemoryRemains]

Iso more opinions!

[Skyler]

My favorite moves for legs are Jumping Barbell Squat, Barbell Half Squats, Barbell Hack Squat, Walking Lunges, Stiff Leg Deadlift, and drop sets combined with Giant sets on Leg Press.

[Bonaparte]

You definitely need a few more years of training. At 6', you should be able to reach at least 190-195lbs naturally with average genetics before resorting to AAS.

[TheMemoryRemains]

My favorite moves for legs are Jumping Barbell Squat, Barbell Half Squats, Barbell Hack Squat, Walking Lunges, Stiff Leg Deadlift, and drop sets combined with Giant sets on Leg Press.

Appreciate it, can you give me a list of sets/reps/weight for my stats, estimate.

[TheMemoryRemains]

You definitely need a few more years of training. At 6', you should be able to reach at least 190-195lbs naturally with average genetics before resorting to AAS.

Ov course, It's what I have planned.
Goals: 2-3 months gain 15-20 lbs with less then 4% BF.

AAS has been on my mind, but dont penetrate me for that, everyone likes to cheat every so often im just the type to do it right so I dont metaphorically get caught

[Skyler]

I do 3 or 4 sets depending on how it feels. I always work up to a set of all out absolute failure. Reps should stay between 6-12.

[Sicko]

Ov course, It's what I have planned.
Goals: 2-3 months gain 15-20 lbs with less then 4% BF.

AAS has been on my mind, but dont penetrate me for that, everyone likes to cheat every so often im just the type to do it right so I dont metaphorically get caught

Sorry, wtf are you talking about?

[TheMemoryRemains]

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Sorry, wtf are you talking about?

haha, nevermind.

[sixoner]

Goals: 2-3 months gain 15-20 lbs with less then 4% BF.

good luck with that get life insurance

[TheMemoryRemains]

good luck with that get life insurance

You think thats hard?
Must be joking.

edit: maybe you understood wrong. I want to gain 15-20lbs without gaining +4% BF

Status would be 190lbs-200lbs / 12-14% BF
FROM
Status 175lbs/10% BF

[sixoner]

yeah bro, my mistake it was unclear. I thought you meant you wanted to be less than 4%

otherwise, lean gains seem reasonable with some good solid work and diet

[TheMemoryRemains]

yeah bro, my mistake it was unclear. I thought you meant you wanted to be less than 4%

otherwise, lean gains seem reasonable with some good solid work and diet

How abnormal would less then 4% BF be? lol

First time bulking and ive been getting very good responses and attitude from some people so its time to get to get work.

:P

[sixoner]

and I mean lean gains in general without the aid of anabolic compounds. I have never cycled so I have no experience with AAS just wanted to clarify that.

[sixoner]

abnormal less than 4% body fat you mean? like somebody with less than 4% body fat??

[TheMemoryRemains]

and I mean lean gains in general without the aid of anabolic compounds. I have never cycled so I have no experience with AAS just wanted to clarify that.

Definity, I want my goals to be legit and I can definitly get it without any AAS, I might consider a future cycle but until then I am on a serious bulk up.

[TheMemoryRemains]

abnormal less than 4% body fat you mean? like somebody with less than 4% body fat??

lol ye

[TheMemoryRemains]

Bump

[TheMemoryRemains]

I do 3 or 4 sets depending on how it feels. I always work up to a set of all out absolute failure. Reps should stay between 6-12.

Thanks man, they have been added to my routine.... I've been researching legs and there definitly very important if not the most.

[TheMemoryRemains]

Good call on the legs, now I can hardly walk... I love the burn!