*HELP* - 8 months after my last cycle and still problems?

[demyze]

oh where to begin....well first off I am 23 years old almost 24 and I started using steroids about a year and a half ago? when i was 22 I believe. It wasn't smart and I wish I could rewind time and just say no. Here's what I ran

10 Week Cycle
- 500 mg/week Testosterone Cypionate
- 400 mg/week Nandrolone decanate
- and a lil bit of anadrol for first few weeks to kick start cycle.

PCT
(started 2 wks after last injection, ran for 4-6 weeks?):
I used novaldex, and clomid for my pct and had good results.

NOW THE PROBLEMS:

I did this basic cycle above ^ for about 4 cycles? with 10 weeks on, 12 weeks off pct over the past year/year and a half.
It wasn't until my last cycle that I started getting problems. When I came off my cycle the ED started. I then decided that steroids where not for me and I was to young to "have a non-working" dick at the age of 23. So I decided to come off of them for good. My sex drive was low after the last cycle and I had ed problems for first 3-4 months, even after PCT. So I finally went to a hormone specialist and got blood work done. My test levels were below average but we decided to give it more time to see if they would continue to go up. Sure enough through months 5-7 the test levels went to above normal limit. So I have not completely screwed up my body and my sex drive has come back, but is still seems very low? My blood test seem to be good on paper but yet I know I'm not feeling "normal" I can get an erection but it feels like its only 3/4 hard, not a full one. Then I also find myself not getting into it as much as I used to. But I do notice an improvement month to month. I've been going to the doctors and a psychiatrist to help me deal through this. What I've heard is that it can take 8 months-12 months until my body might feel "normal" I am 23 and do not want to rely on Viagra for the rest of my life! My sex drive is definitely there, it just feels lower then it should be. Also I have noticeable muscle/joint pain as well. I wake up in the mourning feeling decent, then by the end of the day my body is exhausted.

I FEEL I DID NOT ABUSE AND TAKE TO MUCH OR USE FOR LONGER THEN A 10 WEEK PERIOD.

MY QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU IS........does my body still need more time to recover after using for a year/ year and half? AND IS THERE STILL HOPE? I hoping this is the case and that I have not done irreversible damage for being young and dumb.

PLEASE ANY FEEDBACK WILL BE SO SO MUCH APPRECIATED, i HAVE TALKED WITH DOCTORS BUT NOW i WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK/EXPERIENCE'S.

[vettewreck]

I dunno man sounds like you used too much if that was the same as you used for your first cycle and you just never really recovered from it yet you continued to use. I mean, 4 cycles of those harsh (deca and anadrol) in only 18 months is rough, pct or not. Have you not tried a normal test booster? Like Gaspari Novedex, or T-bomb, or P6? Id at least give those a try since they only free up test already in your system and youre not actually introducing anymore chemically. Id also try using some tribulous and just give it some time. But id also get back in the gym to at least get the blood pumping some.

[GrEgZter]

I would say you need more time you body did not have enough time to recover properly, u did not take proper time between the cycles. Like vette said try some test boosters.

[demyze]

Yes I am currently on t-bomb 2, and it seems to help somewhat. Like I said the urge is there but the erection seems to be 3/4. T-bomb 2 makes me blow big loads and all, but its the sex drive and the erection part that seems to be the problem. HOPEFULLY TIME WILL HEAL ALL. My endo said all blood levels are normal, idk I'm stumped.

[nowaymang]

deca shuts you down hard and said you used it numerous times, stay off gear for a good amount of time, get some natural test boosters like HCGenerate from www.needtobuildmuscle.com that shit gives me crazy erections after cycle. Bro there is plenty of hope as you said you have been feeling better month by month so keep it all up, you could even try running another PCT to kick start things again. Don't worry man we all make mistakes, you havent completely ****ed yourself just let time play out and keep training, your body will start to return back to normal again. goodluck

[demyze]

So deca can shut you down even this long after using IT? wow. Now does HCGenerate work better then the T-bomb 2 I am on? AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR REPLY'S, THIS MEANS SO MUCH TO ME.

[nowaymang]

So deca can shut you down even this long after using IT? wow. Now does HCGenerate work better then the T-bomb 2 I am on? AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR REPLY'S, THIS MEANS SO MUCH TO ME.

Bro deca and tren can **** people's recovery up big time. Tren especially, sometimes people never recover properly after use of tren... Deca isn't as harsh but is still alot worse then testosterone. That's why i stay away from the two like the plague because i don't know how i'll react to it, but they are both great compounds which is a bitch. Not sure man I haven't used T-bomb before but i used Unleashed and HCGenerate with my PCT after my last cycle and both were pretty kick ass, unleashed got my sex drive and good feeling going again, HCGenerate got my boners going like crazy. So in your case because it's mainly ED problem i'd try out HCGenerate bro, run it at 3 caps AM, 3 caps PM till the bottle finishes, after the first week you should see a difference. Be positive champ even though this has happened it could be alot worse, you could be getting no errections at all and have zero sex drive at all, the list goes on, just let this be a warning to others.

[CMB]

as far as the ED goes, use cialis.

No really, my dick works fine by its self, but I never go a night without using cialis just makes every better for both me and my partner .

Hope all gets better for you man you can try maca or horny goat weed or tribulus to help with the libido problem.

Good luck man.

[Sicko]

Hopefully time will heal you, And yet another testement as to why AAS should not be used by people under 25..That was a lot of gear to run consecutively for anyone who is not a pro BB. And not even the normal time off...IMO..

[cherrydrpepper]

Ok dude a few things im almost 30 and I have used viagra and its not so bad. Last time I did it my gf said and I quote "wow your cock looks big and veiny" so try to look on the positive side of things. I know when you are young it seems like everything is such a big deal in life but really as you get older you get a more wtf attitude. As far as sex itself everyone is different. For me personally the sex is always better if I don't jack off that day or even the day before if possible. This allows me to keep a better wood. During any sexual episode there are several different moves you can each make. If you are having this problem you need to figure out what turns you on the most as well as the same for your partner. My gf does things to me that make me want to explode within 5 minutes, then other shit she does does nothing for me. Communication is key.

[BOBfromfightclub]

Run a bottle of p6 Red or activate extreme. activate xtreame is awesome

[deladude]

did u run test for a while after stopping the deca?

[MBMETC]

That's a lot of gear my friend, it wouldn't surprise me at all if a 12 month recovery process was needed
Good luck


Just curious how much clomid and nolvadex did you run during pct

[Far from massive]

Just curious if your endo feels that using any non prescription aids (HCgenerate, test boosters etc) during this period will affect {slow} you bodies adjustment? I am not saying they will as it would certainly depend on the way they affect the body, but it may be worth looking into since taking one drug to conteract the effects of another drugs damage will often serve to delay or suspend the bodies recovery.


O-K after bringing up that shitty point, as far as continued recovery..Hell Yes it will continue! You say so yourself ,your post says that you are still seeing changes month to month. You are at an age where your body is still developing albiet not at the rate of a teenager, and many physical damages take years to heal completly.

Gut feeling is that you will see continued improvement. As far as the supplements if HCgenerate if it is working to alleviate your problems at the current time any negative affect will probably (still would ask endo) be overshadowed by the psycological affect that being able to perform now will have on your bodies ability to recover, remember the brain plays a huge role in the bodies ability to perform in these situations.

[demyze]

AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK! CANT TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO ME!

now.......It seems that a 12 month recovery period is something that is NOT exaggerated, and I should continue to take it day by day. My question to you guys is.....do you recommend I stop taking the t-bomb 2 and maybe start running some HCgenerate to see if that works better? The endo said I shouldn't take anything because "I don't know what could be in it", but I've heard natural test boosters wont slow the recovery process but actually help? Is this true? THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR FEEDBACK

[rock75]

Needto's HCGenerate is some good ish bro, definitly continue with that. this is just released as well from Needto under their new line http://www.rlssupplements.com/store/...serms-347.htmlI would also try and to another clomid regime again and also get yourself some cialis (research chems) so your rats erections can be full force.

[rock75]

also, your prolactin levels may be elevated from the deca and this is what will cause your rat to have a droopy dick, got to lower this, you can try cabergoline and needto also has this https://www.mrsupps.com/Product-Forma-Stanzol_26.aspx and the reviews are excellent so you could use this as well

Rock

[nowaymang]

AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK! CANT TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO ME!

now.......It seems that a 12 month recovery period is something that is NOT exaggerated, and I should continue to take it day by day. My question to you guys is.....do you recommend I stop taking the t-bomb 2 and maybe start running some HCgenerate to see if that works better? The endo said I shouldn't take anything because "I don't know what could be in it", but I've heard natural test boosters wont slow the recovery process but actually help? Is this true? THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR FEEDBACK

I'd say continue the t-bomb till you can get your hands on some HCGenerate and then stop it and give it ago. Also have you talked to your endo about running another PCT? something low dosage like 25mg clomid a day for a month then 12.5mg for another month? u can still use the test boosters like t-bomb and HCGenerate while using clomid.

[BigDawg44]

Man im sorry to hear this, i honestly wish i hadnt read this post cause im about to get on a prop tren cycle myself but now i know how to deal with any long term side effects i encounter.

[Considering]

Try any HCG?

[Jack23]

10 months later after Deca,Testosteron cycle.Blood levels are mostly normal.But still waiting for recovery.Limp dick sucks

[vadimnekadim]

try to do HCG therapy and take proviron . i think that should help

[Tigershark]

Best of luck to you. Hope everything turns out well.

[rock75]

limp dick from deca = prolactin levels are elevated = try the link i provided for Needto's Forma Stan &/or get some cabergoline and use it...

[demyze]

Hey guys, thanks again for all the feedback! here's my plan....

Im going to try:
*Liquid Prami 60mL 1mg/mL
and
*Needto's HCGenerate

I feel the liquid prami is worth trying, and ive heard good things about the hcgenerate.

I did try another small run at clomid 25mg a day (around month 5-6), but I was getting headaches, also noticed headaches when using the tbomb 2 (natural test booster) So I'm pretty cautious as to what to use? Like i said, erge is somewhat there, erections are half to 3/4 hardness, but I can still tell i'm not a 100% and i'm hoping the liquid prami will help.

AGAIN THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INPUT! I WILL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED.
WISH ME LUCK! THIS SUCKS!