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  1. #1
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    Exclamation What do you think?

    Im going to Start a new cycle. Im not sure what to do or better words which one to do. I have a Cycle of Clen/T3 as well of a Cycle of Dbol. What i was thinking of doing is Doing a 28 day cycle of Clen with T3 then finsh it with a 5 week Cycle of Dbol. My man goal is to cut my body fat down from a 17% to a 10% or lower. Also i need to build muscle so that is why i want to do a cycle of Dbol. I already Lost 115lbs and im down to 195lbs. The problem is that i didn't lift when doing my 3 cycles of clen to loss all that weight.

    I was also advised to take a cycle with clen/t3 and dbol.

    clen/t3 cycle with work out cycle and meal plan
    Day 1 Clen 40mcg / T3 off
    Day 2 Clen 40mcg / T3 off
    Day 3 Clen 40mcg / T3 off
    Day 4 Clen 80mcg / T3 off
    Day 5 Clen 80mcg / T3 off
    Day 6 Clen 80mcg / T3 off
    Day 7 Clen 80mcg / T3 50mcg
    13Day 8 Clen 80mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day 9 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day10 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day11 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    Day12 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
    Day13 Clen 120mcg/ T3 75mcg
    Day14 Clen 80mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day15 Clen 80mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day16 Clen 80mcg / T3 100mcg
    Day17 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
    Day18 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
    Day19 Clen 40mcg / T3 75mcg
    Day20 Clen 40mcg / T3 75mcg
    Day21 Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg
    Day22 Clen off / T3 50mcg
    Day23 Clen off / T3 50mcg
    Day24 Clen off / T3 50mcg
    Day25 Clen off / T3 25mcg
    Day26 Clen off / T3 25mcg
    Day27 Clen off / T3 25mcg
    Day28 Clen off / T3 25mcg

    WORK OUT
    Monday: 4 Mile-track work out

    - Jog - 1 mile in 7:00 - 8:00
    - Three sets of:
    - Sprint -1/4 mile
    - Jog - 1/4 mile in 1:45
    - Six sets of:
    - Sprint -1/8 mile
    - Jog - 1/8 mile 1:00

    Wednesday:
    2 Mile Run
    Supersets for Push-ups and Sit-ups
    Repeat this cycle of exercises non-stop 5-10 times:
    - Regular pushups - 10
    - Regular situps - 10
    - Wide pushups - 10
    - Reverse Crunches - 10
    - Close or Tricep pushups - 10
    - Double crunches - 10
    If you do this five times, you will have done 150 pushups and abdominal exercises in less than 15 minutes! Now that's a good foundation-building workout. You'll reach failure no matter who you are, only if you continue this workout for 10-15 times. When you reach failure and your goal is to reach five sets, go to your knees for pushups if you have to. That is what I mean when I say, "succeed by failing."
    Timed Workout
    Repeat twice:

    - 1 minute of push-ups
    - 1 minute of sit-ups
    Repeat three times:
    - 30 seconds of push-ups
    - 30 seconds of sit-ups
    Repeat four times:
    - 15 seconds of push-ups
    - 15 seconds of sit-ups


    Thursday:
    2 Mile Run
    How the Pyramid Works

    If you take a look at one of the pyramids, you will notice that it is numbered on both sides. It goes from 1-5 on one side, with the number 6 on the top, and then 5-1 on the other side. Each number represents a step in the pyramid. Your goal is to climb the pyramid all the way up, and all the way back down. So you can consider each step a "set" of your workout.
    At the bottom, you will find "pullups x 1, pushups x 2, situps x 3". What this means is that at each "set" or step of the pyramid, you perform 1 pullup for every step you are on, 2 pushups for each step, and 3 situps for each step.

    You start at the bottom of the pyramid, at number one. For each set, you multiply each set number by 1 and that tells you how many pullups to do. You multiply it by 2 to get your pushups, and multiply by 3 for situps. You keep progressing until you get to the top of the pyramid, or your maximum effort at muscle failure. At step six you perform 6 pullups/ 12 pushups/18 situps. Now, you start working your way back down the other side and continue on step 5 on the way back down. So, you'll do 5 pullups/10 pushups/15 situps. Keep going until you work all the way back down to one. Listed below is a number summary of the pyramid:
    Go Up the Pyramid:
    (or half pyramid workout)

    - Set/Step 1: 1 pullups/2 pushups/3 situps
    - Set/Step 2: 2 pullups/4 pushups/6 situps
    - Set/Step 3: 3 pullups/6 pushups/9 situps (Your first few set are basically a warmup)
    - Set/Step 4: 4 pullups/8 pushups/12 situps
    - Set/Step 5: 5 pullups/10 pushups/15 situps
    - Set/Step 6: 6 pullups/12 pushups/18 situps (Here is where you may fail/max out)

    Go Down the Pyramid:
    (or reverse order pyramid)

    - Set/Step 5: 5 pullups/10 pushups/15 situps
    - Set/Step 4: 4 pullups/8 pushups/12 situps
    - Set/Step 3: 3 pullups/6 pushups/9 situps (Finish cool down)
    - Set/Step 2: 2 pullups/4 pushups/6 situps
    - Set/Step 1: 1 pullups/2 pushups/3 situps

    Friday:
    2 Mile Run At night
    Push-ups
    Placing your hands in the wrong position can seriously affect your maximum score. A perfect location for your hands is just outside shoulder width. This position enables the chest, shoulders and triceps to be equally taxed. Keep hands at shoulder height when in the up position. Your push-ups will be weakened if your hands are too low, wide, close or high.

    Recommended Workout
    Try five sets of maximum push-ups in five one-minute periods.
    Pull-ups
    During the pull-up and push-up test, you want to perform these as fast as possible while adhering to the proper form and technique. Also, look straight up at the sky in order to use your back muscles more for pull-ups.

    Recommended Workout
    Pyramid workout. Start off with just one pull-up for the first set, two pull-ups for the second set. Continue up the pyramid by adding one pull-up for every set possible. When you can no longer continue, repeat in reverse order until you are back to just one pull-up (Ex. 1,2,3,4,5,6,5,4,3,2,1).
    Push-Up/Crunch Super Set
    Do five to 10 cycles of:
    - Regular push-ups, 10
    - Regular crunches, 10
    - Wide push-ups, 10
    - Reverse crunches, 10
    - Triceps push-ups, 10
    - Left/right crunches, 10 each side
    The timed workout is another way to increase your push-ups and sit-ups that also helps prepare you for training with the clock -- good practice for the PFT. Being timed is what leads to most people's PFT anxiety.


    MEAL PLAN:
    Meal1:
    3 Fish Oil Caps
    1.25 Cups dry old fashioned oats (cooked with splenda, nutmeg, and cinnamon)
    6 Large Egg Whites
    Total Meal1: 522 calories, 37.8 protein, 9.8 fat, 69.2 carbs, 9.9 fiber

    Meal2: Pre-workout on workout day.
    3 Fish Oil Caps
    6oz. Chicken Breast (seasoned salt and pepper)
    12oz. Sweet Potatoe
    Total Meal2: 523 Calories, 46.1 protein, 5.7 fat, 70.4 carbs, 11.2 fiber

    Meal3:
    3 Fish Oil Caps
    6oz. Canned Tuna
    2 TBSP light mayo
    10oz. Broccoli
    Total Meal3: 416 calories, 50.1 protein, 14.5 fat, 21.4 carbs, 9.4 fiber

    Meal4:
    6oz. Chicken Breast (seasoned salt and pepper)
    .25 Cup Quinoa (maybe throw in a jig of salsa for some flavor)
    5oz. Baby Carrots
    Total Meal4: 393 calories, 46.2 protein, 4.7 fat, 38.9 carbs, 5.6 fiber

    Meal5:
    6oz. London Broil (seasoned salt and pepper)
    10oz. Spinach
    2 TBSP fruity salad dressing
    Total Meal5: 485 calories, 50.1 protein, 23.4 fat. 16.2 carbs, 6.2 fiber

    Meal6: Bedtime
    1 scoop Casein
    6 oz. Cottage Cheese (throw in some splenda or salt and pepper depending on my mood)
    2 TBSP Natural Peanut Butter
    Total Meal6: 453 calories, 54.35 protein, 20.25 fat, 15.1 carbs, 3 fiber

    Meal7: Workout day only. Post workout shake. May add some waxy maize starch later on.
    1 scoop casein
    1 scoop whey
    Total Meal7: 250 calories, 50 protein, 2 fat, 5 carbs, 0 fiber


    Total for non-workout day: 2792 calories, 284.65 protein, 78.35 fat, 231.2 carbs, 45.3 fiber.

    Total for workout day w/7th meal: 3042 calories, 334.65 protein, 80.35 fat, 236.2 carbs, 45.3 fiber

  2. #2
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    Congrats on your recent weight loss! Lets start with your age? Dbol only cycles aren't the best, they've been done and some have had limited success with them but its an old school outdated cycle.

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    I went through and dug your stats out of ur older posts.

    Age 26
    Height 6ft
    Weight 195
    BF% u claim is now 17% Great work on losing all that weight!!!
    Training experience, is still a ? though

    Why don't any of your work outs include lifting weights? Your goal is to lose more fat and keep your strength up. I honestly think you could do that by incoporating weights into your training... Doing 150 push ups in 15 mins is fine and dandy but I doubt it tears down your muscles like weight training would do. Benching 225 for reps of 10 will keep you strong and prolly be a nice first stepping stone. Honestly you could spend a year or two in the gym working on your technique before considering cycling.

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    bro awesome /good 4 u ,but becarefull with these products they can have harsh side effects. i would start lifting also low weight to start just to get building also

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    Thank you, It's been a long journey but great out come. I'm 27 years old I'm not sure of all my measurements but my body fat is down around a 17%. I have very min muscle mass due to all the weight lost without lifting. When I was 310lbs all I wanted to do was loss the fat and weight. So know I'm at the point where I want to lose the rest of my fat as well at the same time build a foundation of muscle at the same time. I'm looking to get cut not big and that is why I fell that I should do a of running and core exercises. I will incorporate lifting to my schedule which i will post when I finalize it and gather more information. I thank everyone in advance in giving me guidance and information in order for me to achieve my Goal. I will also post pictures of PAST PRESENT and when I achieve my GOAL.

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    Before you consider adding any AAS to your program lets get you on a weight training program, Some people dont' seem to realize that if you're 200lbs and you and 20% bodyfat for example. If you put on 15lbs of muscle your bodyfat percentage drops almost 2% as the ratio of Lean body mass to bodyfat decreases. Do you have any weight training experience?

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    I do have weight training experience



    Quote Originally Posted by scotty51312 View Post
    Before you consider adding any AAS to your program lets get you on a weight training program, Some people dont' seem to realize that if you're 200lbs and you and 20% bodyfat for example. If you put on 15lbs of muscle your bodyfat percentage drops almost 2% as the ratio of Lean body mass to bodyfat decreases. Do you have any weight training experience?

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    i thought that clen was to be run 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

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    Thumbs up it works

    I used my cycle 3 times and lost a total of 112lb. I used to be 310lbs and know I am 198lbs with the cycle i ran.

    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    i thought that clen was to be run 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

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