Lets do this right- Input is welcome

[MAC MAN]

Hey Guys, im ready to start my cycle just have like 101 questions as im researching and getting things ready. Doing a 10 week cycle with test, deca, and end with clomid. Sorry if i reask the same as others its just hard to read all the threads and pick out the real from the BS. Thanks in advance for your help.

Quaestioin
1. whats the lowest amount of test and deca one should take and still get a good result? I know results very but im not doing this for FUN

2. when do i start clomid? i have read 4 weeks after last pin but also read 8 weeks after. Would i need to add to my pct?

[kelevra]

If you want to do it right you need to provide more info.
Guessing your cycle history is none.
Can we get the rest of your stats plz.

[D7M]

Age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?
cycle history?

[delta1111]

Stats and experience please buddy?

[MBMETC]

Stats
Age
Weight
Height
Bf
Planned pct
Cycle exp
Goals for this cycle

Ps bad cycle for first go around, pct is weak keep reading

[marcus300]

We need more background

[MAC MAN]

Sorry, 31 5'10 and 180. Bodyfat around 8% and have Trained for 10 years with the last 5 100% dedication to 6 days a week. My goal is to get a good starting point on my first cycle and to start learning what to do the right way. Have done a small cycle back in high school but not something I could say was done correctly. Just did what my friends said to do with what he had.
Pct for now is only clomid. Will have nova but only use if gyno issue start. Any pct that you have done and are willing to give input on is appreciated.

[kelevra]

It’s great to have nolva on hand during, but you will need it in PCT as well. Look through the PCT thread. As a matter of thought, if you could only do one substance for PCT Nolva I’m sure would be recommended over Clomid. But you really want both.

[kelevra]

As for your cycle. Since this is your real first you might just start with the Test. Opinions vary on dose. Some of that depends on you, your goals, and your abilities to maintain gains afterward. A good rule of thumb is to use the least amount of drugs necessary. You might get away with 250 – 350mg weekly and make nice gains. The other thumb says why barley elevate your test levels with a low dose and go with something higher for more significant gains. The 500-600mg range.
IMO, that 400mg weekly range is good for a beginner. You know you’ll get results, but you’re not over doing on the first run.

[vettewreck]

Test only cycle for a first timer buddy. You have no idea how your body will react or what side effects you may get and stacking it with 2 different compounds you will never know what is giving you the sides. Start with Test-e weeks 1-10 at .75cc on Monday and Thursdays. Thats 375mg/wk and a good dose to start with for a first cycle.

[CMB]

deca should be ran for at least 12 weeks.

[MAC MAN]

Thanks for the feedback that you all are posting. If I do 10 weeks of test e, what does my pct with clomid need to be? Is clomid even needed?

[vettewreck]

deca should be ran for at least 12 weeks.

I dissagree. 8-10 weeks is fine. Eq is minimum of 12 but certainly not deca. Plus deca should be stopped 2 weeks short of test, so that would but his cycle at 14 weeks and thats just too much.

[kelevra]

I think Test E is about 10-12 days. So after 12 days from last pin of Test you would start PCT. Take Nolva and Clomid together.
Week 1 Nolva @ 40mg everyday
Week 1 Clomid @ 50mg to 100mg daily. Opinions vary a bit on the dosage of Clomid, but 100 is fairly standard.
Below shows a typical break down by the week.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50