Supressed & Depressed

[BOBfromfightclub]

My blood work shows my test. levels have returned to the higher range area.
However My nuts are way smaller then normal.

Its been 4 months since my cycle of HDROL(PH) and i ran a OCT test booster and Nolvadex.

Is it possible that my nuts are shrunk for good?

I have HCG, the first injection of 400iu made my nuts huge, so I know it works, but the other 2 injections have done nothing, my nuts even seem smaller then before.

Is it possible that the HCG went bad? Ive kept it in my fridge except for maybe a few hours.

Ive been running Nolvadex 40mg for the last 4 days and I have HCG.

I never felt like they recovered from the HDROL so ive been taking natty test boosters on and off for the past 4 months. I havent gone more then 3 weeks with out taking some thing which is probably bad, but its hard not to take some thing when your not hanging low...

What should I do?

[BOBfromfightclub]

swifto ?

[lovbyts]

Continue with the HCG like it should be run. Dont give up after a couple days. After a week or two if it's not working get some new.

[BOBfromfightclub]

ANd Nolvadex? I was planning on HCG 500iu every 3 days and nolvadex 40 mg for 1 week 20mg for another 2-3

[Bonaparte]

It sounds to me like this is all in your head.

You shouldn't really even experience testicular atrophy from Hdrol. It's basically Tbol (very similar structure and it converts to it at 20% or so as well), and Tbol is the least suppressive thing out there. There is no way that anything short of insane abuse could actually shut you down and cause significant testicular atrophy.
Besides, if your test levels are fine, what does it matter what your nuts look like?

[BOBfromfightclub]

So would it be a bad idea to continue Nolvadex and HCG?
Like could I run the nolvadex still?
Is there any risk from running to much Nolvadex?
What about to much OCT Test boosters...like say activate xtreame?

And I actually only ran the HDROL for a little over 3 weeks, if ive abused any thing its the natty test boosters....so could that suppress me?

[BOBfromfightclub]

bump

[BOBfromfightclub]

also ive heard you can take a prego test to see if the HCG is legit.

does this only happen after months of taking it?

could i just put a drop of the hcg on the tester....lol...idk...?

[Bonaparte]

also ive heard you can take a prego test to see if the HCG is legit.

does this only happen after months of taking it?

could i just put a drop of the hcg on the tester....lol...idk...?

It will register positive even if it has lost most of its potency, since you only need 10IU/L to register positive.

[dec11]

So would it be a bad idea to continue Nolvadex and HCG?
Like could I run the nolvadex still?
Is there any risk from running to much Nolvadex?
What about to much OCT Test boosters...like say activate xtreame?

And I actually only ran the HDROL for a little over 3 weeks, if ive abused any thing its the natty test boosters....so could that suppress me?

wouldnt worry, they are shit anyway

[BOBfromfightclub]

so continue hcg and nolva?

btw it definatly is not in my head

[bbh90]

this seems confusing to me your test levels are fine and actually in the higher range area but your nuts are smaller than usual? how much smaller are we talking here? did you ever actually check them out to try and see how big they were before? and how much smaller are we talking? your nuts fluctuate like anything else some days when i feel my nuts they feel huge and other days they feel normal or maybe on the smaller side the point is they wont feel like they are the same size everyday and plenty of things can come into play with that i think whats more important is that they are able to produce the way they are supposed to and from your test results you shouldnt be supressed

how do you feel in general other than from what i can tell draining yourself because your so worried about the size of them?

[bbh90]

this seems confusing to me your test levels are fine and actually in the higher range area but your nuts are smaller than usual? how much smaller are we talking here? did you ever actually check them out to try and see how big they were before? and how much smaller are we talking? your nuts fluctuate like anything else some days when i feel my nuts they feel huge and other days they feel normal or maybe on the smaller side the point is they wont feel like they are the same size everyday and plenty of things can come into play with that i think whats more important is that they are able to produce the way they are supposed to and from your test results you shouldnt be supressed

how do you feel in general other than from what i can tell draining yourself because your so worried about the size of them?

[magic32]

Continue with the HCG like it should be run. Dont give up after a couple days. After a week or two if it's not working get some new.

^^^Agreed.
Except don't give up on the HCG so quickly continue to run it, and give it time to do what it does best, but double check the HCG restorative dosage as I don't know it off hand.
Drop the Nolva it's unnecessary at this point - 4mths post cycle w/no gyno.

As long as your levels are back, you'll be fine.
Hang in there and soon they'll be hanging like they should!

[BOBfromfightclub]

this seems confusing to me your test levels are fine and actually in the higher range area but your nuts are smaller than usual? how much smaller are we talking here? did you ever actually check them out to try and see how big they were before? and how much smaller are we talking? your nuts fluctuate like anything else some days when i feel my nuts they feel huge and other days they feel normal or maybe on the smaller side the point is they wont feel like they are the same size everyday and plenty of things can come into play with that i think whats more important is that they are able to produce the way they are supposed to and from your test results you shouldnt be supressed

how do you feel in general other than from what i can tell draining yourself because your so worried about the size of them?

I know for a fact they are smaller then normal, like i dont really hang at all. almost like a uni-nut. When I wake up however they are a little lower and Ive been having morning wood lately but i dont know if thats just from the hcg and nolvadex.

In general i feel ok. IM finding it hard to keep weight, ive increased my calories about a 1000 but it seems like im losing weight. is this the HCG? But i would defiantly say that i am draining my self and depressed over my nuts.

Ive began to notice that they are always cold... maybe thats why they are "up" is that they are trying to keep warm...I may have some sort of circulation problem. When I get in the hot tub they seem normal size for about an hour...

LOL i feel ****ing retarded talking about all this shit but its a forum and you guys are here to help...or make fun..

Im going to try and supplement some niacin for circulation

[BOBfromfightclub]

ANy one second dropping the nolvadex?

[BOBfromfightclub]

I guess Ill go with HCG 500iu for 6 more days every day and continue nolvadex @40mg every day untell the HCG is gone then switch to 20mg every day for another week and a half