Dianabol - winstrol . First cycle

[carpspy]

im seriously considering about doing d-bol - minstrel for my first cycle (want to keep things simple) . My theory is that with winstrol being a dry estrogen blocker it will take SOME of the water retention given by the d-bol, and help reduce the estrogen side affects , the d-bol will still generate enough water retention to lubricate the joints as i have heard dry joints is a problem with minstrel.

here is what i have come up with.please tell me what you think and let me no of any changes you think i should make.


wk1 d-bol> 20mg (ed)
wk2 d-bol> 30mg (ed) winstrol> 50mg (ed)
wk3 d-bol> 40mg (ed) winstrol> 50mg (ed)
wk4 d-bol> 30mg (ed) winstrol> 50mg (ed)
wk5 d-bol> 20mg (ed) winstrol> 50mg (ed)
wk6 winstrol> 50mg (ed)

wk7-10 clomid>50mg (ed) novladex 20mg> (ed)

thanks

[sixoner]

what about your liver? why no test? whats your age/height/weight/training exp/diet??? if these guys don't know any of these things how can they help you? that would be reckless right??

[carpspy]

i was thinking liv 52, milk thistle, s**t loads of water, 5/11 height 160lbs 20yr old and been training 2 years

[pwnflow]

You're not ready for a cycle. You're very young and your weight shows that you're not a trained lifter. Concentrate on your training and diet for the next couple of years and then look into aas. You got a lot of room for natural gains.

[carpspy]

what about pro hormones like superdrol ?

[pwnflow]

From the point of health, injectables>orals>pro hormones. If you really want to do it eventually then should go for injectables. If you don't want to listen and do an oral now, then go with anavar. It's least suppressive when it comes to htpa and very effective.

[carpspy]

thanks guys, what negative affect could anavar have on my body ?

[pwnflow]

thanks guys, what negative affect could anavar have on my body ?

It will mess up your liver enzymes and lipid panel. That's the main side.

[amostofi1999]

depends on how much/long u do var. it can reduce ur natty test production.

[Bonaparte]

You have no reason to even think about AAS. Learn to eat properly and come back in like 5 years.

[baseline_9]

Dude ur stats are poor

You are underweight, not ready for AAS!

Learn to eat and u will grow like a weed

Ignore all of the guys reccomending AAS to you as they dont have a clue

Eat eat eat and u will grow

Gear will NOT give you perminant gains if u eat like a 160Lb underweight kid that you are now

Get over to the diet section, spend 3 yrs there and then begin the process of learning how AAS work etc...

[MBMETC]

^^^thats your answer right there, not aas
good luck