Test -E-, deca and EQ

[clipper]

I have run a many cycles of deca and test E. I was thinking of adding in EQ. What have you guys have for an experience with doing this? I see them in cycles setups separately, but never together. I read up on both and can't find a reason not to put them in at the same time.
I have run test e from 250/w to 750/w I like 500mgs the best, and will do that for the next cycle.
I have run deca from 200-600/w and like 500ms the best. I like what it does for healing of joints and connective tissue, so I will def keep this, and use it at 500mgs/w.
But now I am looking at add more strength. Not so much mass. I am not a BB i am a strength athlete, and need to keep from getting to big and slow.

SO what do you think.

Age mid 30's
Weight: 270-285lbs
Height: 5' 9"

[hankdiesel]

your weight is sky high bro. what is your bf. can u see your abs at all? also, in my experience eq is a waste....especially if you're looking for big strength gains.

[clipper]

No I can't see my abs, and don't want to. I am not fat, I am not a BB. Not sure on my BF.

SO you did not gain much strength on EQ? As compared to what? What did give you the most strength gains?

[yungone501]

Knowing your bf% is extremely important in running any cycle..especially a cycle that includes deca! Deca is known for elevating estrogen and you will experiencing many sides that could be potentially harsh. Even if no sides have surfaced this doesnt mean they wont or havent already and have just gone undetected.

Also, there is no sense in running eq and deca in the same cycle. Essentially the exact same compound eq being slightly less potent.

[clipper]

I have run this set up enough times to know what sides I get. And EQ and Deca are not the same. At least not according the the info on this site, provided by this site. Go read the write up on both, the one on EG says they are not the same.
I am not new at this, been running the same set up more or less for 8 years. 1 or 2 cycles a year. I use Novelx to keep the sides away, have tried others but that works the best for me. Clomid 3 weeks after cycle, this also I have tried others with this working fine.
Just looking for info on running the 2 at the same time, from people that have tried it. And if so would the do it again. If not, why not.

[yungone501]

Yes, there are a few differences between the two compounds but this still does not take away from the point of raising estrogen levels.

Just because you take nolva during cycle doesnt mean that this is for sure taking care of all issues estrogen could cause. Like i said, there are things that can happen that are unseen.

Look man, all im saying is that if youre gonna cycle, do it safely. And if youre not gonna lower your bf%, get routine blood screens to ensure youre not doing any irreversable damage. Power lifters are known for many many health issues due to cycling under high bf%s. Play it safe brother.

[clipper]

I do the blood test, my BF is not high, just not sure what it is. Cholesterol, kidney function, liver values, and heart function are all great. Get them tested 2 times a year.

Thank you for your concern. Not all that ask questions are new at this. But with all the newbies it is hard to tell at times who is new and is not.

Have you run both? What did you think of each?

I am not just a PLer, also do A LOT of strongman, so cardio and heart health are high on my training list. I feel like every post I am spending way more time defending my self than I am learning anything.

[Kdub]

Anavar produced incredible strength gains - 80 mg per day. 5 plates a side on the Hammer seated row machine one arm at a time - 3-4 sets at 12-15 reps. I was blown away. Personal experience also shows clenbuterol as being even more effective for strength gains. I can't imagine running them both together with test of course. Read my posts on clen in you wish to know more about my experiences.

Have you had experience with clen or anavar?

[clipper]

I have never tired either of them. I have read about Anavar, but am worried about the aggression it gives.

[vettewreck]

I dont see any point in running Deca and Eq together. I know what the profiles SAY... but thats completely different to how they actually effect your body. Meaning, you can read all you want but untill you do it, its not the same. They simply react differently in the body, do different things, and just doesnt make sense.

[clipper]

thank for the info.