First Cycle Advice

[MeNaCe305]

First My Stats:
5' 10"
195lbs (Don't know my body fat)
23 Years Old (Had a physical about a month ago and asked about my growth plates in which case the doctor did the xray and let me know they are closed)

Second My History:
I was a wrestler most my life and after highschool gave it up and hit the gym. I've never seen much growth because school always interferred. As of late (within the past 2 1/2 months) I've hit the gym hard and seen moderate gains (mainly due to my low weight high rep workouts and general love of cardio which bogs down my heavy weight lifting. I have gained weight within the past year jumping from 175 to 195 although my diet has remained consistant.

Third Diet:
8am - 6 eggwhites with 1/4 cup of dry oatmeal and a glass of juice or milk
10:30am - 1 tablespoons of peanut butter and a banana
1pm - 6oz [tilapia, redmeat, or chicken], 1/4 cup of brown rice, greens (no real amount)
3:30pm - Greens (no real amount) and Protein Shake
6pm - Amino Acids (2 doses plus Juice)
*Workout Time*
8pm - 8oz [tilapia, redmeat, or chicken], 1/4 cup of brown rice, greens (no real amount) with Protein Shake

Fourth My Goals:
I want to lean out and get those six pack abs I used to have but along with some bulk (I know, everyones goals). I don't care for size, hence the diet but I well aware that I'll need to eat more. I plan on starting the gear late January or early February and to finish up 12 weeks late with hopefully positive results.

Fifth The Gear:
Test Cyp. stacked with Winstrol.

Advice Needed:
I've have searched the forums many times and seem to find conflicting arguments on dosages and times so here are my questions.

1. How should I be taking the gear?
2. I've read that doing PCT the entire time instead of just the end or when gyno appears is best to avoid gyno; is this true?
3. I've been told by experienced people that I should also include HCG towards the end of the cycle to help with weight loss and PCT; true?

Any advice, even if its [stay on your diet and workout] will be appreciated. Please let me know whats up as I took a great deal into writing this, thanks.

[MeNaCe305]

Here are some current pictures, it was hard to flex and hold the camera but I tried.

[vettewreck]

I get the impression this is your very first cycle. If so, just do simple test and nothing else. Let your body to respond and see how you do with side effect on 1 compound before adding in others.

Weeks 1-10/12 test-c 375mg/wk (.75cc Monday and Thursdays)

You should have Nolva on hand incase your nipples become sensitive. Also, at your dose, you dont need HCG as your mg isnt enough to prevent you from rebounding. It certainly wont hurt and would help, but deffinitly not needed. Clomid and Nolva will be fine for PCT.

[MACHINE5150]

I get the impression this is your very first cycle. If so, just do simple test and nothing else. Let your body to respond and see how you do with side effect on 1 compound before adding in others.

Weeks 1-10/12 test-c 375mg/wk (.75cc Monday and Thursdays)

You should have Nolva on hand incase your nipples become sensitive. Also, at your dose, you dont need HCG as your mg isnt enough to prevent you from rebounding. It certainly wont hurt and would help, but deffinitly not needed. Clomid and Nolva will be fine for PCT.

Vetterwreck's advice is sound. Your questions reflect that you are a bit shaky on the terminology.. PCT is Post Cycle Therapy and usually consists of taking 100mg ED/100mg ED/50mg ED/50mg ED Clomid (4 weeks) and 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex.. Clomid kick starts your test production, nolvadex blocks estrogen. You can if you wanted to run 20mg Nolvadex through out your wohle cycle if you wish to prevent any possible side effects from estroen such as gyno.. but most people only use an AI when it is needed.

HCG can be ran at 250iu 2x a week through out your cycle to prevent testicular atrophy, but is generally uneeded at those doses, but as Vettewreck said, it couldn't hurt.

Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection for Test Enanthate or three weeks after last shot of Test Cypionate

[Tigershark]

Isn't 23 the borderline for using AAS? Wouldn't it be wise to wait a few years more?

[MeNaCe305]

It's not just age tigershark, from what I read it has to do with your growth plates.
My initial fear with taking just test-c is that ill bulk up and not lean out, is this what will happen? Also from my understanding I can to the PCT throughout the cycle, I just want to avoid the gyno instead of waiting for it. And the HCG at the end will probably end up happening because of the added effect of weight loss albeit I got to eat entirely different

[HawaiianPride.]

It's not just age tigershark, from what I read it has to do with your growth plates.
My initial fear with taking just test-c is that ill bulk up and not lean out, is this what will happen? Also from my understanding I can to the PCT throughout the cycle, I just want to avoid the gyno instead of waiting for it. And the HCG at the end will probably end up happening because of the added effect of weight loss albeit I got to eat entirely different

It goes much further than your epiphyseal plates man. HPTA, endocrine, connective tissue/ligaments, bones, muscle maturation, knowledge of the compounds you are administering, ect ect. Your GP is only 1 of many variables that should be overlooked before steroid usage.

Fear of not making the cycle a lean one depends more so on the food intake rather than the hormone/ester you are using. Test is test you can create leans gains or use it to bulk massively but what determines the outcome is mostly what your nutrition intake looks like.

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those pics are hard to see

[MeNaCe305]

Vetterwreck's advice is sound. Your questions reflect that you are a bit shaky on the terminology.. PCT is Post Cycle Therapy and usually consists of taking 100mg ED/100mg ED/50mg ED/50mg ED Clomid (4 weeks) and 40/40/20/20 Nolvadex.. Clomid kick starts your test production, nolvadex blocks estrogen. You can if you wanted to run 20mg Nolvadex through out your wohle cycle if you wish to prevent any possible side effects from estroen such as gyno.. but most people only use an AI when it is needed.

HCG can be ran at 250iu 2x a week through out your cycle to prevent testicular atrophy, but is generally uneeded at those doses, but as Vettewreck said, it couldn't hurt.

Start PCT 2 weeks after last injection for Test Enanthate or three weeks after last shot of Test Cypionate

So to get your advice correct, I should run this:

Weeks test-c 375mg/wk for 10-12 weeks at .75cc Monday and Thursdays; have the nova on hand incase of gyno (in which case I will use it the entire cycle out of concern for my body [i hate doing this just incase and would rather avoid it]0; and then 3 weeks after start clomid [how long should this be ran then?].

My next questions are simple:
1. Can I do cardio while on the cycle? (I've heard that this increases the likelyhood of an enlarged heart)
2. I can see people use the HCG as a form to prevent estrogen production but I've also heard of it to be used for weightloss (except you have to eat 500 cal a day or else you actually have the opposite happen); is this true?

Again thanks for the advice guys