Shithouse results... very dissapointed...

[a_bower]

Hi.

24
240lbs
6"3'
4 years lifting exp.

Alrighty its week 10 and ive been running test c @ 500mg/week (2 shots) and ive put on a huge 1 KG! wow! unbeleivable.
it was well worth it, not.
But seriously guys im very dissapointed in my result. The brand was fairly trusted and had a good rep. I ate like a horse and mixed up my trainning and excercises. All that i noticed was a slight strength increase, few veins, little bit more vascular and elevated moods. Next time around ill be running Deca + test from a more trusted sorce and hopefully get a worthwhile result.

Cheers.

[voidofRoids]

I know price talk is not condoned here, but how did you spend on a single cycle?

[CMB]

Lol, maybe he bought in bulk.

Sorry mate, it happens. Good luck on finding another source.

[a_bower]

lol.. the test was roughlyPCT was about all up with postage and bits and peices.. i did order more than i needed tho for pct so i will have enough for next time round.. yeh hopefully the next cycle goes well, its not so much the money its just the planning and all the pinning and stuff that makes it dissapointing to get no result.

[SergeantCarbs]

If you werent adding weight then you simply werent eating enough. Weight gain will be determined by your diet, that ratio of that going to mass would be effected by the cycle.

[slimshady01]

Even if he wasnt eating enough he should have had better results. Even if he was at maintainance calories he would have noticed a nice recomp.. If he was under calories he would have noticed nice cutting results.

[MBMETC]

Sorry to hear man, that blows. Ya sounds like bunk gear

[Tigershark]

That sucks man. Hope if you do a cycle in the future things get better for you.

[Userat204]

Sorry bro. Move on to the next source because what you have is crap. Ive seen people with low cal intake still gain more than you but more noticeable was the body recomp. And sounds like you were eating so gear must be junk. How was your libido?

[Bulkn]

Go get a blood test to see if the gear was bunk or underdosed.

[PistolStarta]

if it was UGL but well known they can still release bad batches.

[Bonaparte]

I'd get my test levels checked before even using the PCT meds. If the stuff was bunk, don't bother taking them.
Get the bloodwork done right after taking your last shot and if your levels are in the normal range, there was likely nothing in there.

[Times Roman]

Comment? Forget the AAS for now. After 10 weeks of intense training, I would expect more than a kg of gain. If you were to go all year at that level, that would only be 5kg gain for the entire year. Even without the AAS, that is still light.
Something is not right. you say you ate like a horse. It's probably time to go to the diet section and post your diet. Include macros. You better be pushing at least 4kcals/day or your horse aint eating right.
Next is your routine. Hows that looking? You may want to post that too. I know you said 4 years training, but let me tell you. I have a shit load more than that, and the reality was , I was fukking it up and over training. i know, rookie mistake, but I kept making the same mistake year after year, and the gains came real slow. You may want to go to the exercise forum and post your routines there for us to look at.
Finally, I have to agree with the others. it sounds like your gear is old, weak, or bunk. Time for a new source.

[coonhunter]

Maybe we misunderstood. Did you mean 700 US dollars or 700 mexican pesos? LOl. In that amount of time with good diet and training you would see good results without gear if you had a main focus in your training and diet. Like gaining size cutting weight or body comp change. Im just saying. You would know if your gear is working especially with test. Your penis will fill like there is a larger stronger penis trying to get out of your old one when ever you get a boner. Oh and that will happen all the time with little or no provocation.

[layeazy]

bad luck mate you would want greater results than that i would assess workout and diet and then check if aas is for you they are some bad gains..

[Solidarity]

If you ate like a horse you should have gained more than 2 pounds even without the AAS. Obviously your diet was not in check. If you aren't gaining then you aren't eating enough. At the same time I would expect you to gain more than 2 pounds of water weight even with an AI so perhaps your gear was bunk. As for the price, I knew it kind of sucked in AUS but damn I never even payed that much for a 16 weeker of Primo/Mast/Test.

[miboleron]

Well it seems to be common problem. I know my source long before i became his client, but he sells so many compounds, no way he can tell me which one is OK. So basically i cycle with compounds he had cycled before.

[marcus300]

Sounds like fake gear, even if you diet wasn't good you should of still gained some water weight, find a better source next time,

[Zibzab]

That sucks mun, I am sure it was fake.

[a_bower]

Hey guys, thanks for all the support and comments. I appologise for the late reply, was at work. Yes I definately ate much more calories. I had a solid diet consisting of lean meats, white rice and salads before my cycle and I was maintaining around 107kgs well.
When I started my clycle I basically just ate 1 big extra carb+protein meal a day taking the total meals from 4, up to 5-6 (Including Breakfast + Shake) and I ate my salad at night and replaced my brown and white rice with pastas and increased the amount of lean meat per meal. . A decent day for me looked something like this:

Oatmeal & water
(Training)
(Bannana)
Big Rice/Pasta + Chicken
Big Rice + Tuna
Protein Shake
(occasionally another little snack in here)
Big Steak + Salad/Vegies

Got lots of sleep and drank shitloads of water.

In a perfect world I know i probably should have got another meal in there, but its just the time constraints with work etc. Also i just couldnt stomach it.

My training program I am always changing, but it pretty much follows the same pattern:
Monday: Chest
Tuesday Legs
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday:Shoulders
Friday: Rest
Saturday:Back
Sunday:Rest
(Also i would throw bi's and tri's in wherever.. Usually on leg days or shoulder days)

Pretty basic but i was always mixing up my excercises on each day. Always included my compund excersises like deep squats and bent over rows etc.. I think im gonna change it around to a push pull type arrangment..

But as most of you have said that either way i still should have noticed a better result than friggen 1-2kgs which is probly just water or whatever..

As i said guys, deffinately dissapointing, not due to the money but more to the fact that i had high hopes of reaching 114-115 ,and post cycle, maintaining 111-112.. Anyway.. next time will be better

[MBMETC]

Still question the gear, however after looking at the diet it may also be off hard to tell without macros.
If thats you in the avi you look like a big guy and it just doedn't look like enough food

[vettewreck]

$300??? OMG BURNED!!!!!!! sorry. lol

[boz]

At the end of the day man thats how much us aussies pays for a usual cycle. Although my pct is alot cheaper, the gear i get runs around in those prices.

The rest of u guys around in the world, dont realise how lucky use have it.

[shennen]

Nice stats, shame the gear sucked.

[Sicko]

I would definetly take a trip to the diet section after looking at your diet. Sorry to hear about the bunk gear that is a real bummer...

[dec11]

def underdosed or bunk, i had well recognised lab brand at start of summer and either it was something else labelled incorrectly or it was massively underdosed, point is you wont ever know what fvck ups and mistakes these labs make, a mate used the same test from the same batch with no probs. i always go HG unless im really pushed and cant get it, i always view UG labs with suspicion. if gear cost that much in ireland, i wouldnt bother with it. you are a big enough guy with those stats so im assuming you have your diet correct

[a_bower]

Still question the gear, however after looking at the diet it may also be off hard to tell without macros.
If thats you in the avi you look like a big guy and it just doedn't look like enough food

yeh. ill deffinately take a trip back to the diet section..

I did a little more research on the UGL and found out that it was suspected to be underdosed. So i was probly shooting more like 300mg/week hence no result.

[yungone501]

What was your bf% pre/current?

[layeazy]

yeah its not that bad for the aussies or well where i am its just stay away from the crappy homebrew because once you have used quality u cant go back lol we can still get good stuff though but for your case i would suggest a better plan for next time...

[Bonaparte]

yeh. ill deffinately take a trip back to the diet section..

I did a little more research on the UGL and found out that it was suspected to be underdosed. So i was probly shooting more like 300mg/week hence no result.

300mg a week still would have provided good gain for a first cycle. I'd venture to say you were pinning under 200mg of test, if anything at all.

[MBMETC]

300mg a week still would have provided good gain for a first cycle. I'd venture to say you were pinning under 200mg of test, if anything at all.

I agree 300 mgs should have netted good results

[a_bower]

What was your bf% pre/current?

Gee roughly 12.5 begining then id have to estimate around 15 atm.. reason being i upped my calorie intake after i saw little result....

yeah its not that bad for the aussies or well where i am its just stay away from the crappy homebrew because once you have used quality u cant go back lol we can still get good stuff though but for your case i would suggest a better plan for next time...

lol homebrew! fuk that lol sounds nasty.. i probably wouldnt go as far as to call it homebrew lol...

300mg a week still would have provided good gain for a first cycle. I'd venture to say you were pinning under 200mg of test, if anything at all.

True.. well, looking towards the future now anyway..